what else would I need?
Ok, after doing some searching and planning, here's what I plan on doing for my future custom setup:
Injectors(I'm thinking probally off of a DSM)
Garrett T3/T04 E 50 trim and .48 A/R
Short tubular manifold
Greddy RS blowoff valve
Tial wastegate(38mm)
Stealth oil line kit
Intercooler (28 x 2.5 x 6.25)
Hondata with boost option (with a good tune
)
Turbo XS manual boost controller
Is there anything else I should need or that's on the list I don't need? I plan on spending around 3000. I'd like to be making around 225-250whp and don't plan on boosting past 7-10 PSI (until I build up the motor later towards the end of this year). Is this a good setup for a quick spooling street setup? Also is there play for bigger boost with this setup? Sorry to ask so many questions just want to know as much as possible before I start buying anything.
Injectors(I'm thinking probally off of a DSM)
Garrett T3/T04 E 50 trim and .48 A/R
Short tubular manifold
Greddy RS blowoff valve
Tial wastegate(38mm)
Stealth oil line kit
Intercooler (28 x 2.5 x 6.25)
Hondata with boost option (with a good tune
)Turbo XS manual boost controller
Is there anything else I should need or that's on the list I don't need? I plan on spending around 3000. I'd like to be making around 225-250whp and don't plan on boosting past 7-10 PSI (until I build up the motor later towards the end of this year). Is this a good setup for a quick spooling street setup? Also is there play for bigger boost with this setup? Sorry to ask so many questions just want to know as much as possible before I start buying anything.
Yoy know that you don't need to spend a bunch of money on EMS, hondata can run upwards of $500+, look into Uberdata, Neptune and Crome.
also dont forget Clutch, intercooler piping, couplers, t-bolt clamps, dump tube(optional) depending on the year of your car resistor box for the DSM's, downpipe, all new fluids (just a recomendation).
As for more boost in the future i might suggest a larger A/R trim on that turbo, unless you are running a d-series.
What car is this going on???
EDIT-<U>Your signiture owns me!</U>
also dont forget Clutch, intercooler piping, couplers, t-bolt clamps, dump tube(optional) depending on the year of your car resistor box for the DSM's, downpipe, all new fluids (just a recomendation).
As for more boost in the future i might suggest a larger A/R trim on that turbo, unless you are running a d-series.
What car is this going on???
EDIT-<U>Your signiture owns me!</U>
Well I have a USDM p30 as the ECU (OBD I of course) I just figured that with more people tuning hondata I should get that, over something not nearly as many people are trained to tune, as I can't/don't want to attempt to tune it myself. The oil I know I'd do anyways because of the oil lines to the oil pan, good idea on doing the rest of them though. I have an eg hatch with a B16 right now, I've got a basic tune-up(denso plugs, magnacore wires)exedy clutch and flywheel, and a custom 2.25" exhaust(I'll be going up to 2.5" right before the turbo). Is a exedy stage 1 clutch good enough or do I have to go with like a 6 puck type of clutch? What A/R would you reccomend. I don't want to go too big because I heard that A/R is what primarily effects lag after the turbo size itself. I want something that will be full boost by around 3000 RPM (sooner the better).
If you are looking for quick spool go with something like the gt28rs or GT 2871, they spool really fast and make power up to 350-400whp. They are a little more complicated turbos considering that they are cooled differently but they make great street turbos. They are a little expensive though. I would sugggest the .81 A/R housing considering that they are smaller turbos.
As for the fuel pump they are really not needed till about 275whp but its cheap insurance i guess, you could always just get an FPR untill you are making more than 250+hp. JMO
As for the fuel pump they are really not needed till about 275whp but its cheap insurance i guess, you could always just get an FPR untill you are making more than 250+hp. JMO
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Those are both out of my budget unfortunately. I plan on spending 600-700 or less for just the turbo. I have heard plenty of good things about both, but $1100 is not realistic for me to spend on a turbo. Just out of curiosity though, how fast do they spool? If it's full boost by like 2000 or something I'll try and spring the extra $$ but if it's like most other turbos, (for street with lower boost) around 3000 with a good tune, I really don't see the benifits other than bragging rights to say you have an expensive turbo under your hood.
Those are both out of my budget unfortunately. I plan on spending 600-700 or less for just the turbo. I have heard plenty of good things about both, but $1100 is not realistic for me to spend on a turbo. Just out of curiosity though, how fast do they spool? If it's full boost by like 2000 or something I'll try and spring the extra $$ but if it's like most other turbos, (for street with lower boost) around 3000 with a good tune, I really don't see the benifits other than bragging rights to say you have an expensive turbo under your hood.
i think they spool somethin like 500-1000 rpm sooner than a same turbo without ballbearings...nowhere near 2k lol more like 4500-5000 maybe later
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What about the gt28r (not the RS) That's close to my budget @ 775-800. Is that a good BB turbo for a B16 or too small? I was under the impression most people running lower boost levels (7-10 PSI) had full spool by 3-3500 RPM, is it really not until almost VTEC kicks in that most turbos fully spool?
Any more suggestions? Also anybody know some good places to go through and others to avoid? I found a few places but just in case their are cheaper places with the same stuff.
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