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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Ok, after doing some searching and planning, here's what I plan on doing for my future custom setup:
Injectors(I'm thinking probally off of a DSM)
Garrett T3/T04 E 50 trim and .48 A/R
Short tubular manifold
Greddy RS blowoff valve
Tial wastegate(38mm)
Stealth oil line kit
Intercooler (28 x 2.5 x 6.25)
Hondata with boost option (with a good tune )
Turbo XS manual boost controller

Is there anything else I should need or that's on the list I don't need? I plan on spending around 3000. I'd like to be making around 225-250whp and don't plan on boosting past 7-10 PSI (until I build up the motor later towards the end of this year). Is this a good setup for a quick spooling street setup? Also is there play for bigger boost with this setup? Sorry to ask so many questions just want to know as much as possible before I start buying anything.
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Default Re: Any suggestions.... (broketuner-egb16a)

Yoy know that you don't need to spend a bunch of money on EMS, hondata can run upwards of $500+, look into Uberdata, Neptune and Crome.

also dont forget Clutch, intercooler piping, couplers, t-bolt clamps, dump tube(optional) depending on the year of your car resistor box for the DSM's, downpipe, all new fluids (just a recomendation).

As for more boost in the future i might suggest a larger A/R trim on that turbo, unless you are running a d-series.

What car is this going on???

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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:39 PM
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Well I have a USDM p30 as the ECU (OBD I of course) I just figured that with more people tuning hondata I should get that, over something not nearly as many people are trained to tune, as I can't/don't want to attempt to tune it myself. The oil I know I'd do anyways because of the oil lines to the oil pan, good idea on doing the rest of them though. I have an eg hatch with a B16 right now, I've got a basic tune-up(denso plugs, magnacore wires)exedy clutch and flywheel, and a custom 2.25" exhaust(I'll be going up to 2.5" right before the turbo). Is a exedy stage 1 clutch good enough or do I have to go with like a 6 puck type of clutch? What A/R would you reccomend. I don't want to go too big because I heard that A/R is what primarily effects lag after the turbo size itself. I want something that will be full boost by around 3000 RPM (sooner the better).
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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Default Re: Any suggestions.... (broketuner-egb16a)

...add the fuel pump while your at it
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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If you are looking for quick spool go with something like the gt28rs or GT 2871, they spool really fast and make power up to 350-400whp. They are a little more complicated turbos considering that they are cooled differently but they make great street turbos. They are a little expensive though. I would sugggest the .81 A/R housing considering that they are smaller turbos.

As for the fuel pump they are really not needed till about 275whp but its cheap insurance i guess, you could always just get an FPR untill you are making more than 250+hp. JMO
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Those are both out of my budget unfortunately. I plan on spending 600-700 or less for just the turbo. I have heard plenty of good things about both, but $1100 is not realistic for me to spend on a turbo. Just out of curiosity though, how fast do they spool? If it's full boost by like 2000 or something I'll try and spring the extra $$ but if it's like most other turbos, (for street with lower boost) around 3000 with a good tune, I really don't see the benifits other than bragging rights to say you have an expensive turbo under your hood.
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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Default Re: Any suggestions.... (broketuner-egb16a)

i think they spool somethin like 500-1000 rpm sooner than a same turbo without ballbearings...nowhere near 2k lol more like 4500-5000 maybe later
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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What about the gt28r (not the RS) That's close to my budget @ 775-800. Is that a good BB turbo for a B16 or too small? I was under the impression most people running lower boost levels (7-10 PSI) had full spool by 3-3500 RPM, is it really not until almost VTEC kicks in that most turbos fully spool?
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Old Jan 17, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Any more suggestions? Also anybody know some good places to go through and others to avoid? I found a few places but just in case their are cheaper places with the same stuff.
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