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99-00 b16 hydro tranny vs 99-00 gsr tranny???????????

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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Default 99-00 b16 hydro tranny vs 99-00 gsr tranny???????????

yah umm whats the difference

my tranny has been acting up so we took it apart and basically its not worth fixing

im looking into a new but id like to know what i would expect if i were to go with the gsr tranny

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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:38 AM
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the gsr tranny will have longer gears.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMallTHEway &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the gsr tranny will have longer gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, taller gears will give you slightly slower acceleration, better fuel economy and lower rpm at speed. It will give you a higher potential top speed which is irrelevant since we don't live in Germany. GSR tranny is better for an engine that produces more torque so unless you're going boost...I'd stick with the Si tranny.
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Red_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep, taller gears will give you slightly slower acceleration, better fuel economy and lower rpm at speed. It will give you a higher potential top speed which is irrelevant since we don't live in Germany. GSR tranny is better for an engine that produces more torque so unless you're going boost...I'd stick with the Si tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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b16 tranny=all motor
b18c1 tranny=turbo
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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ok now does anyone have a si tranny for sale?
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Old Nov 8, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Red_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yep, taller gears will give you slightly slower acceleration, better fuel economy and lower rpm at speed. It will give you a higher potential top speed which is irrelevant since we don't live in Germany. GSR tranny is better for an engine that produces more torque so unless you're going boost...I'd stick with the Si tranny.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, there is this place in Arizona.....

If you want to use 5th from the GSR as an overdrive, you could do that. Better 5th gear economy and a higher top speed (in case you ever move to Germany and take your car with you).

-Shane
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Lets not forget that the 99-00 Si tranny has a 4.2 final drive and the GSR has a 4.4. So I would think they would be pretty similair. I would get the S4C tranny and throw in a GSR diff and 4.7 ITR final drive...
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nathan atwell &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lets not forget that the 99-00 Si tranny has a 4.2 final drive and the GSR has a 4.4. So I would think they would be pretty similair. I would get the S4C tranny and throw in a GSR diff and 4.7 ITR final drive...</TD></TR></TABLE>

uh no.

the 99-00 S4C is a 4.4 final drive, same as the GSR. and the 4.785 final drive only comes on the JDM ITR S80 5 speed.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revolution8k &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

uh no.

the 99-00 S4C is a 4.4 final drive, same as the GSR. and the 4.785 final drive only comes on the JDM ITR S80 5 speed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope. Same final drive as the LS. You should go drive a SIR B16 tranny and then drive yours.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 06:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nathan atwell &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Nope. Same final drive as the LS. You should go drive a SIR B16 tranny and then drive yours.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What the hell are you talking about? Do you have any source to back up your claim? Because well, I do. Same as a US GSR transmission.

S1/J1 JDM B16A X-Si 3.230 2.105 1.458 1.107 0.848 3.000 4.400
Y1; Y1 w/LSD JDM B16A SiR I 3.166 2.052 1.416 1.103 0.870 3.000 4.266
S4C/Y21 USDM B16A2, B16A3; JDM SiR2, JDM SiR2 w/LSD 3.230 2.105 1.458 1.107 0.848 3.000 4.400
Y80/S80 JDM B16B w/LSD; JDM B18C 96-spec R w/LSD 3.230 2.105 1.458 1.107 0.848 3.000 4.400
YS1 USDM B17A1; JDM B16A X-Si w/LSD 3.307 2.105 1.458 1.107 0.848 3.000 4.400
S1/YS1/A1 USDM B18A 3.166 1.857 1.259 0.935 0.742 3.000 4.400
Y80/S80 B18B 3.230 1.900 1.269 0.966 0.714 3.000 4.266
?? B18B (auto) 2.722 1.468 0.975 0.638 ---- 1.954 4.357
S80/Y80; S80 w/LSD, Y80 w/LSD JDM B18C SiR-G 3.230 1.900 1.360 1.034 0.787 3.000 4.400
S80 w/LSD JDM B18C Spec-R 3.230 2.105 1.458 1.034 0.787 3.000 4.785
Y80 USDM B18C1 3.230 1.900 1.360 1.034 0.787 3.000 4.400
S80 w/LSD USDM B18C5 3.230 2.105 1.458 1.107 0.848 3.000 4.400
S80 w/LSD EDM B18C Spec-R 3.230 2.105 1.458 1.034 0.787 3.000 4.785

http://www.hondaswap.com/forum...29829

It appears that my transmission is on par or better than any JDM SiR 5 speed transmission. Which also has shorter gearing than a USDM GSR transmission.

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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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Default Re: 99-00 b16 hydro tranny vs 99-00 gsr tranny??????????? (Amir)

I think I was thinking about the Y1 But there is no need to get all aggressive. Ill find it later on today. Right now I have to go to class
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 06:53 AM
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Default Re: 99-00 b16 hydro tranny vs 99-00 gsr tranny??????????? (nathan atwell)

I just hate basically being called a liar. I have a source, and I know how accurate it is. I'm not wrong on this.
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