i am getting a reflash and dyno tuning done down in york on the east coast. they said it would be about 800-1000 dollars.....that sound about right? good deal? or am i being ripped off!

 

If you are just getting a reflash then how are you going to get it tuned? With the reflash you can't change anything so how are they going to tune it? Unless you have the K-Pro, or are you going with something different than Hondata? If so what, cause I thought that Hondata was the only option for the K series motor.

Unless you are getting the reflash and the tuning (if possible) for the $800 to $1,000 then you are getting seriously ripped. Even if you are getting both, then I still think it is too high. If you are getting a hondata reflash then you are getting ripped even worse cause that is only ~ $600, and no tuning is necessary, and I don't think it is possible.

 

800-1000 for tuning?
Rip.

 

i have alot of money invested in my turbo, turbo accesories, and alot of other parts in my car. the car has about 10 grand under the hood, and thats without the stuf i have on order. all this is being done now, thats why i need to reflash for the new turbo. hondata fucked the reflash up, and we are considering sending the computer to get reflashed by this guy in york, and after that get it dyno'd and tuned....killing two birds with one stone.

 

a flashed ECU is the wrong way to go. Don't cheap out on engine management, get kpro. A reflash is useless for a turbo car because it can't be altered that much. Sounds like you don't really know what you are doing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a flashed ECU is the wrong way to go. Don't cheap out on engine management, get kpro. A reflash is useless for a turbo car because it can't be altered that much. Sounds like you don't really know what you are doing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

what chu talkin about?

lots of money to throw around

not a lot of thinking

just wanna do it to be cool on the streets.

thats whats its all about dawg. racin stop light to stop light man.

ok. i think i just nauseated myself. i'm going to puke now.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nos4a2si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have alot of money invested in my turbo, turbo accesories, and alot of other parts in my car. the car has about 10 grand under the hood, and thats without the stuf i have on order. all this is being done now, thats why i need to reflash for the new turbo. hondata fucked the reflash up, and we are considering sending the computer to get reflashed by this guy in york, and after that get it dyno'd and tuned....killing two birds with one stone.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you have that much invested in your car already then you need a programmable ECU. You can not tune your car with a reflash. You need a programmable ECU to tune your car.

You are either
A. Talking ****
B. An idiot

You really need to learn more before you damage your car.

 

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ok. i think i just nauseated myself. i'm going to puke now. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

A)your a b*tch
B)your a b*tch
C)your a b*tch

maybe i should add D)all the above. listen smart ***, arrogant child, im not the one putting this car together, im telling you stuff the shop tells me. i work for my money, im sure your mom and dad pay for all your things. or you sell coke to 12 year olds. now, Mr. ingorant, let me tell you this. this car is not even going to be driven until absolutely everything is done with it. therefore i do not have to give a damn about wether im ruining my car running it the way i am, CAUSE IM NOT. its sitting in these dudes garage getting things done to it. basically its sleeping for the winter. not to mention, Mr. know-it-all, the computer does and should be re-flashed as a part of getting other engine management systems. thats right from the mouths of AEM trained people that talked directly with the guys who are working on my car. im just putting up posts to get opinions on what the garage says, and coming here, to get advice to see how i can give the garage feedback and ideas on how to make my car better. dont need dicks such as yourselves being completely rediculously rude, when someone asks a question. as far as i am concerned, if you're that rude to someone right off the bat without knowing jack, you are probably like that in your normal lives. crash, and let the worthy human beings have some more air in this dwindelling hipocricy i call the U.S.

 

o, by the way, i just talked to the guys, and took a look at hondata's webpage. apparently thats what my shop already was going to do. but of course people such as yourselves wouldnt wait to hear that, you would only and immediatly lash out with your lude comments and shallow thoughts.

 

take it easy man K-Pro is the only way to go

 

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Maybe if you provided a mod list, to validate your claims of "10 grand under the hood" people would be more willing to help you, instead of them "lashing out" on you. Just a thought...

 

alright, here is what i have....and remember the numbers i got are what i added up from invoices. obviously under the hood would also mean the work/time/money to install. being that my original statement was IN no way meant to sound like i have millions of dollars and literally every part adds up to 10 grand. only a very pretentious person , ahem, such as a few of you, would right off the bat ASSUME thats what i meant by it....and well, do i need explain what assuming does to you and me? haha. anyways, here is what i have, again, this list IS NOT TO BRAG for christ sakes, its to show what i have, so any decent person can tell me what i should get to help.

(in no order and some brands i forget the name, but from posts i have seen in this forum they arent bad parts, yes some maybe obvious because you need some parts to go with others just for other parts to work, but i will list them too for clarity purposes, this is the whole shabang i guess of what i have)

*****K-pro computer***** (just checked)
revhard T3T4 turbo
revhard intercooler
Vortech blow off valve
revhard cast iron manifold
35mm external wastegate
A.C.T. ultralight flywheel
Exedy stage 2 clutch
venom fuel pump
dc sports titanium upper front strut bar
nuespeed short shifter
apexi turbo timer
apexi v-afc II
550cc injectors
greddy stainless steal catback exhaust
AEM V2 cold air intake (for sale)
dc sports 4-2-1 ceramic header (for sale)
powerslot vented breaks (all 4)
AEM pulley
bosch spark plugs
spark plug wires (red)
some other APC tubing
and some pipes i had painted. that cost a bit too.
the actual engine tuning 100 an hour (which im currently asking you all if its worth it)


looking for or on order:
cnc forged pistons and arms set(having a b*tch trying to find them)
carbon fiber hood
carbon fiber hatch
cam gears (cant find)
camshaft(cant find either)
buddy club kit

AGAIN, im not trying to freakin brag. if i had the best car on this forum, well i wouldnt be on this forum, i would be in some magizine or somthing. i came here just for advice, not to be called an idiot.

 

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Having a little problem with that statement, I'll let you figure it out.

Since you didn't list a head swap, there are no camshafts available for the A3 yet.
Cam gears are a completely unneeded item.

Tuning here costs 140 and hour with wideband O2.

 

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*****K-pro computer***** (just checked)
</TD></TR></TABLE>
So you do have the K-Pro.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nos4a2si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
apexi v-afc II
</TD></TR></TABLE>
You won't really need this then, seeing as you have the K-Pro.

 

thats what i mean, as far as i know they dont make those two items for the k20a3. i mean, the factory cam gears are probably fine. i hear alot of people say its really not even worth putting new cams in even if your car has the part available. yet most people do. i dont i have heard alot of different things on that subject. but yeah, there is no point in my mind unless both are made.

someone down in harrisburg said he still thought it would be nice to see what he could tune if i also had the vafc-II. but he didnt really explain anything besides that. so i dont know if he knows somthing we dont.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nos4a2si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">someone down in harrisburg said he still thought it would be nice to see what he could tune if i also had the vafc-II. but he didnt really explain anything besides that. so i dont know if he knows somthing we dont.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You should read up on both the Apex VAFC-II and the Hondata K-pro. You'll see that having the VAFC-II is redundant, and not necessary if you already have the K-pro. The K-pro also handles turbo tuning (up to 12psi of boost), so even having a Apex AVC-R is not really necessary. (Unless you plan on using higher boost.)

 

cool. yeah i will check up on that. that will help me save a bit too. those apexi parts arent very cheap. lol. damn electronics.