400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups?

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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Hallo,

we plan a 400-450 WHP B16A Setup, what are the most common setups for this power?

what turbo is the best for this application?
how much bosst?
what compression?
how many octane?

what are the most problems i will get?

that the block must get sleeves, pistons and rods and so on is totaly clear... its just about the things around the engine.

Thanks for your help
Malte.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (mrx)

here was our setup when we made 430 hp on my turbo 4 car back in the day

- 81.5mm je pistons, 9.0:1 compression
- eagle rods
- block guard
- stock head
- crower valve springs and retainers
- stock valves
- stock b16 cams
- edelbrock intake manifold
- holley 68mm throttle body
- 720cc injectors
- uberdata
- innovative gt61s turbo at 22 psi

430 at the wheels
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 02:51 PM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (GSC Motorsports)

thats funny we have the same setup in our customers car but cp pistons 9.5:1 and jg springs and retainers we made the same hp who says stock sleeves dont work
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 11:51 PM
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for stock sleves... im plaing on making 500+ on gsr sleves mmm
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (GSC Motorsports)

What about the fuel? how many octane is needed at a 9:1 compression ratio so that we don't get detonation?

Thanks
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 01:56 AM
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that all depends on how much boost, but I would at least run 93 octane for lower hp and boost
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMHatch4Me &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that all depends on how much boost, but I would at least run 93 octane for lower hp and boost</TD></TR></TABLE>

how much boost do we need aprox for 450 WHP??? i think someting about 20psi?!

Greets
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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my buddy's B16 84mm w/ Precision gt35e makes 415whp @ 16psi. Im sure he will see this post later and give some more info.
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (DIRep972)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIRep972 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my buddy's B16 84mm w/ Precision gt35e makes 415whp @ 16psi. Im sure he will see this post later and give some more info.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (Boostfed)

nice hp numbers, im planning on making in hte 400-450 range with
b16a 81.5mm cp 9.0:1
pauter rods
honda bearings
itr cams/ portflow springs
inline pro mani/innovative t3t4 57 trim .63 a/r
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (mrx)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

how much boost do we need aprox for 450 WHP??? i think someting about 20psi?!

Greets
Malte.</TD></TR></TABLE>

horsepower is not solely dependent on how much boost. you could make 350whp on a small t3 at 15psi, and 400 on 15psi from a t3/t4.
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (GSC Motorsports)

i got that same set up in my hatch it makes good power but lacks the torque
and make the turbo boost late!!!!
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (green bean)

Hi Malte
Octane rating is not the same in the US and in Europe. I have been told that US octane 93 is around 98 in europe.
Old Oct 28, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (DanishR)

Yes i know, but i can recalculate it if someone tell me a number.

its also clear that 15psi on a T3 is not 15psi on a t4... this was the reason for my question about what type of turbo is the best and how much boost is aprox. needed for around 450 WHP.

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Old Feb 15, 2021 | 12:38 AM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (mrx)

Originally Posted by GSC Motorsports
here was our setup when we made 430 hp on my turbo 4 car back in the day

- 81.5mm je pistons, 9.0:1 compression
- eagle rods
- block guard
- stock head
- crower valve springs and retainers
- stock valves
- stock b16 cams
- edelbrock intake manifold
- holley 68mm throttle body
- 720cc injectors
- uberdata
- innovative gt61s turbo at 22 psi

430 at the wheels
what fuel did u use to get those numbers?
Old Feb 15, 2021 | 03:33 AM
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Default Re: 400-450 WHP B16, what are the most common setups? (mrx)

Originally Posted by Damien Hay
what fuel did u use to get those numbers?
That post is 17 yrs old... You may get better answers creating a post with a specific/current question.
(22psi on a 61mm, 9:1 w/ 720s was probably pump back then)
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