REVISED: I want a D-Series in my EG Hatch. But which one?
10-19-2004, 10:52 AM
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REVISED: I want a D-Series in my EG Hatch. But which one?
Sorry for the repost, but my other one had so many people asking me questions that my dumb *** should have put in the first post, as well as a lot of arguing about whether this guy's Del Sol would beat and Si Hatchback, while the hatchback mentioned was really a CX, and just **** like that. You get the picture . So here is what I want
I want to put a D-Series, SOHC VTEC motor into my EG Hatch. I want to be a manual. I want LSD. I want to keep it Naturally Aspirated for a while now to see if I can get what I want out of it from ALL MOTOR power. I have heard people recommend the following:
* D16Y8
* D16Z6
* D16Z6 Block w/ D16Y8 Head
* D16A6 Block w/ D16Z6 Head
* JDM D15B
* JDM SOHC VTEC ZC (didn't even know they made VTEC ZCs)
1.) What is the differences in the -Y8 and -Z6 heads?
2.) What should I steal the 5-Speed tranny from? Heard the DX and CX weren't nothing compared to a EX or Si. True?
3.) I also heard that if I decide to go with a JDM, and screw something up, I am pretty much SOL, because it's hard to get parts for 'em and no on knows how to work on them. True?
4.) What motors came in a 92-95 Si? Did the same on come in an EX? I would eventually like to end up with a Si Conversion.
5.) What exactly is a Mini-Me Swap? Heard about it, but seen about 3-4 different block/head combinations listed as a "Mini-Me".
6.) How high does a D-Series safely rev to? How does it compare to a B-Series? I want to be able to Rev it really high for the sound and excitement of 7500-8200rpm.
7.) What rpm does the VTEC kick in on a D16Y8, D16Z6, D15B, and a ZC?
8.) What are the weight differences in a CX, VX, DX, EX, and Si?
Sorry about the repost, but people on the other one spend too much time explaining their overdrives and how a GS-Rs are slower than CX Swaps 'n ****. Had to repost so people can start seeing my questions.
I want to put a D-Series, SOHC VTEC motor into my EG Hatch. I want to be a manual. I want LSD. I want to keep it Naturally Aspirated for a while now to see if I can get what I want out of it from ALL MOTOR power. I have heard people recommend the following:
* D16Y8
* D16Z6
* D16Z6 Block w/ D16Y8 Head
* D16A6 Block w/ D16Z6 Head
* JDM D15B
* JDM SOHC VTEC ZC (didn't even know they made VTEC ZCs)
1.) What is the differences in the -Y8 and -Z6 heads?
2.) What should I steal the 5-Speed tranny from? Heard the DX and CX weren't nothing compared to a EX or Si. True?
3.) I also heard that if I decide to go with a JDM, and screw something up, I am pretty much SOL, because it's hard to get parts for 'em and no on knows how to work on them. True?
4.) What motors came in a 92-95 Si? Did the same on come in an EX? I would eventually like to end up with a Si Conversion.
5.) What exactly is a Mini-Me Swap? Heard about it, but seen about 3-4 different block/head combinations listed as a "Mini-Me".
6.) How high does a D-Series safely rev to? How does it compare to a B-Series? I want to be able to Rev it really high for the sound and excitement of 7500-8200rpm.
7.) What rpm does the VTEC kick in on a D16Y8, D16Z6, D15B, and a ZC?
8.) What are the weight differences in a CX, VX, DX, EX, and Si?
Sorry about the repost, but people on the other one spend too much time explaining their overdrives and how a GS-Rs are slower than CX Swaps 'n ****. Had to repost so people can start seeing my questions.
10-19-2004, 06:52 PM
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1. z6 has larger combustion chambers comapred to the y8
2. get an ex or si tranny for shorter gearing.
3. most jdm D series are identical to their US counterparts...sohc vtec zc=d16z6 or y8
4. d16z6 same as an ex.
5. sohc vtec head on a a non vtec block.
6. depends on how well it is built
7. depends ont eh ecu you use, typically 5000+ though.
8. check edmunds.com for vehicle weights
2. get an ex or si tranny for shorter gearing.
3. most jdm D series are identical to their US counterparts...sohc vtec zc=d16z6 or y8
4. d16z6 same as an ex.
5. sohc vtec head on a a non vtec block.
6. depends on how well it is built
7. depends ont eh ecu you use, typically 5000+ though.
8. check edmunds.com for vehicle weights
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Re: REVISED: I want a D-Series in my EG Hatch. But which one? (93CX)
1) Supposedly the Y8 head will flow a lot better then the Z6 head. I have no proof of that though.
2)Ex and Si tranny are the same right? They have shorter gear ratios compared to the dx/cx/vx trannys are are usually good for .1-.2 seconds.
4)92-95 Si and Ex both came with the d16z6 vtec. 96-98 ex is a d16y8
5)I'm sure you could pretty much call any head on a differnt block a mini me, but usually a non vtec block with a vtec head. That is very easy to perform on the sohc, and there is a great write up on here somewhere.
6)It probably wouldnt be a problem to get a sohc to rev that high, given you take some time to upgrade the head
7)Bah I think 5200? Someone correct me if im wrong, but you can always get a vtec controller and change that around.
8) Hatches: Vx-2094 Cx-2108 Dx-2264 Si-2390 Coupes: Dx-2231 Ex-2501 Sedans: Dx-2313 Lx-2376
Someone add some corrections if needed, I could be wrong on some stuff.
2)Ex and Si tranny are the same right? They have shorter gear ratios compared to the dx/cx/vx trannys are are usually good for .1-.2 seconds.
4)92-95 Si and Ex both came with the d16z6 vtec. 96-98 ex is a d16y8
5)I'm sure you could pretty much call any head on a differnt block a mini me, but usually a non vtec block with a vtec head. That is very easy to perform on the sohc, and there is a great write up on here somewhere.
6)It probably wouldnt be a problem to get a sohc to rev that high, given you take some time to upgrade the head
7)Bah I think 5200? Someone correct me if im wrong, but you can always get a vtec controller and change that around.
8) Hatches: Vx-2094 Cx-2108 Dx-2264 Si-2390 Coupes: Dx-2231 Ex-2501 Sedans: Dx-2313 Lx-2376
Someone add some corrections if needed, I could be wrong on some stuff.
10-20-2004, 08:42 AM
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Re: REVISED: I want a D-Series in my EG Hatch. But which one? (Justin_Bradley)
Great information! Keep it coming!
One Question: To put a Z6 in my EG, wouldn't I need to upgrade to OBDII, or is a 96-98 Civic in OBDI also?
One Question: To put a Z6 in my EG, wouldn't I need to upgrade to OBDII, or is a 96-98 Civic in OBDI also?
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Re: REVISED: I want a D-Series in my EG Hatch. But which one? (Justin_Bradley)
I will have a very clean D16Z6 complete swap available in a few weeks, 119 K miles, perfect condition with no tranny grinds what so ever! Let me know if you are interested, I will be glad to get pics, videos, and or documentation on the swap and car it is coming out of.
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Re: REVISED: I want a D-Series in my EG Hatch. But which one? (swifty4u)
7)Bah I think 5200? Someone correct me if im wrong, but you can always get a vtec controller and change that around.
if i remember correctly, vtec on my sohc z6 was around 4600-4700 (been dohc swapped for about 4 years so its hard to remember exactly
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if i remember correctly, vtec on my sohc z6 was around 4600-4700 (been dohc swapped for about 4 years so its hard to remember exactly
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Re: REVISED: I want a D-Series in my EG Hatch. But which one? (Justin_Bradley)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin_Bradley »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Great information! Keep it coming!
One Question: To put a Z6 in my EG, wouldn't I need to upgrade to OBDII, or is a 96-98 Civic in OBDI also?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay... By "EG" hatch I'm assuming it is a 92-95 hatch? If so, your car is OBD I and you could drop a d16z6 right in there (came stock in Si), the d16z6 is OBD I...
96-98 is OBD II, so if your hatch is one of those years I would drop in a d16y8 (OBD II) and not mess with the z6.
One Question: To put a Z6 in my EG, wouldn't I need to upgrade to OBDII, or is a 96-98 Civic in OBDI also?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Okay... By "EG" hatch I'm assuming it is a 92-95 hatch? If so, your car is OBD I and you could drop a d16z6 right in there (came stock in Si), the d16z6 is OBD I...
96-98 is OBD II, so if your hatch is one of those years I would drop in a d16y8 (OBD II) and not mess with the z6.
10-20-2004, 09:21 AM
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Re: REVISED: I want a D-Series in my EG Hatch. But which one? (EJ1 wilcox)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 wilcox »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Okay... By "EG" hatch I'm assuming it is a 92-95 hatch? If so, your car is OBD I and you could drop a d16z6 right in there (came stock in Si), the d16z6 is OBD I...
96-98 is OBD II, so if your hatch is one of those years I would drop in a d16y8 (OBD II) and not mess with the z6. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm asking about a y8, with the larger combustion chambers, into a 92-95 Hatch. Would I need one of the OBDII to OBDI converter harneses?
Okay... By "EG" hatch I'm assuming it is a 92-95 hatch? If so, your car is OBD I and you could drop a d16z6 right in there (came stock in Si), the d16z6 is OBD I...
96-98 is OBD II, so if your hatch is one of those years I would drop in a d16y8 (OBD II) and not mess with the z6. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm asking about a y8, with the larger combustion chambers, into a 92-95 Hatch. Would I need one of the OBDII to OBDI converter harneses?
10-21-2004, 06:47 AM
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MY BAD!!!
Now reading my second post, I realize where I confused the **** outta a lot of probably. Sorry...
What I meant to ask was this:
If I want the 96-98 y8 head in my 92-95 Civic, would I need to a conversion harness to make it work, b/c I am almost sure that '96-Current Civics where OBDII, and I am also almost sure taht 92-95 were OBDI.... Anyone know?
Aright I think I got it right this time. Anyone
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What I meant to ask was this:
If I want the 96-98 y8 head in my 92-95 Civic, would I need to a conversion harness to make it work, b/c I am almost sure that '96-Current Civics where OBDII, and I am also almost sure taht 92-95 were OBDI.... Anyone know?
Aright I think I got it right this time. Anyone
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