D16y8 vs d16z6
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D16y8 vs d16z6
Alright so I wanna get a sohc vtec that I can build. I know the d16z6 and d16y8 are the two most common sohc vtec motor. I have a 1993 cx with a d15b7. I wanna go NA for now. Which is the better/stronger motor to build?
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Re: D16y8 vs d16z6
You always have the option of doing a mini-me swap, and using the rest of your cash to get a nice top-end setup. I.E. I/H/E, Cam, PnP, and Nice tune. That will out perform just a bolt on Z6 or D15B.
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Re: D16y8 vs d16z6
If you wanna stay n/a just go b series. You will never get the torque or power out of that motor that you will get with a b swap. If you want to keep your single definately boost it. Pound for pound an n/a single will never keep up with an n/a dohc period. What I'm saying is that if you took 2 grand and spent it on both motors going n/a dohc wins everytime.
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Re: D16y8 vs d16z6
I probably won't get the money till the end of next month. I have about 500 or so saved up. So b series is outta the question. I'm really just looking for something to build while I'm in school
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x2!
My buddy's EG z6 coupe did 15.5 at Rockfall raceway in WI. Its about how good you can launch because there's another coupe with a B16A that did 15.5 like him too. Lol.
To the OP, I say z6 man cause when I was still F22 VTEC single cammer, I pulled on y8 farther than I did on a z6. Z6's aren't a joke.
My buddy's EG z6 coupe did 15.5 at Rockfall raceway in WI. Its about how good you can launch because there's another coupe with a B16A that did 15.5 like him too. Lol.
To the OP, I say z6 man cause when I was still F22 VTEC single cammer, I pulled on y8 farther than I did on a z6. Z6's aren't a joke.
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i realize your in school so im just asking (dont bite my head off) but is their anyway you can piece together a b-series swap? mounts from honda are cheap or maby i just get discounts prolly
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Re: D16y8 vs d16z6
D-series were designed as cheap to manufacture, reliable, fuel efficient "eco-box" engines. While they do thrive with F/I, their very design weaknesses come in once you try to "optimize" them for N/A.
Basically, if you cannot afford a B-series, you REALLY cannot afford to build a D-Series. I'm not saying this to be rude, just being realistic.
Honestly, I just don't understand people's fascination with the D-series. People spend way too much time and money trying to find interesting things to do with them. I'd rather spend my time and money finding interesting ways to *get rid* of them.
Actually, for somewhere around the money you got, you could possibly do an LS-swap. It would get you into B-series land which opens you up to future upgrades. An LS has between 15-20 HP more than the best D series, as well as a flat torque curve. They also love to gobble upon turbos.
LS swaps might be the worst of the modern B-series, but they're better than any D-series by far.
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Time is money. If you're going to swap an engine, you might as well put one in that is actually worth the work. Also, If you want to *save* money, get a B series because any work on a D-series, besides forced induction, is basically burning money. You can dump in literally thousands of dollars building a N/A D-Series and still get torn apart by GSR and SiR-II swaps all day long.
D-series were designed as cheap to manufacture, reliable, fuel efficient "eco-box" engines. While they do thrive with F/I, their very design weaknesses come in once you try to "optimize" them for N/A.
Basically, if you cannot afford a B-series, you REALLY cannot afford to build a D-Series. I'm not saying this to be rude, just being realistic.
Honestly, I just don't understand people's fascination with the D-series. People spend way too much time and money trying to find interesting things to do with them. I'd rather spend my time and money finding interesting ways to *get rid* of them.
Actually, for somewhere around the money you got, you could possibly do an LS-swap. It would get you into B-series land which opens you up to future upgrades. An LS has between 15-20 HP more than the best D series, as well as a flat torque curve. They also love to gobble upon turbos.
LS swaps might be the worst of the modern B-series, but they're better than any D-series by far.
D-series were designed as cheap to manufacture, reliable, fuel efficient "eco-box" engines. While they do thrive with F/I, their very design weaknesses come in once you try to "optimize" them for N/A.
Basically, if you cannot afford a B-series, you REALLY cannot afford to build a D-Series. I'm not saying this to be rude, just being realistic.
Honestly, I just don't understand people's fascination with the D-series. People spend way too much time and money trying to find interesting things to do with them. I'd rather spend my time and money finding interesting ways to *get rid* of them.
Actually, for somewhere around the money you got, you could possibly do an LS-swap. It would get you into B-series land which opens you up to future upgrades. An LS has between 15-20 HP more than the best D series, as well as a flat torque curve. They also love to gobble upon turbos.
LS swaps might be the worst of the modern B-series, but they're better than any D-series by far.
Thank you! finally someone among the living, he could getta B20 for the price of an ls and i would go that way, ive had 2 and im building mine for B20V fully built head
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Re: D16y8 vs d16z6
Everyone does have good point but I didn't mention that the motor now is an illegit swap. I had to cut into the harness to add a map and had the wrong ecu originally so I have no idea how many miles are on this motor. The cluster isn't even stock. It's an auto cluster, my car is manual. The cluster rolled over 200k last week and it makes me nervous hence why I wanna find a low budget running swap. A d series has all the same mounts and is almost completely compatible for any part swap. I can run any d series off this ecu I have. I may no have vtec but I'm almost positive it'll work to make it run. Maybe not the best but it'll at least get me to and from school and work. And anyways I wanna go h22 haha. That's eventually though
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Re: D16y8 vs d16z6
I can easily store the swap and build on it till this one craps out on me and then pop that back together and drop it in in a weekend probably.
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