My 12grand engine build...lsvtec
09-11-2004, 08:42 PM
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My 12grand engine build...lsvtec
b16 head Port and Poilsh $900
-ericking racing 68mm throttle body 365
-JUN Valve Spring Kit 380.00
-ferra retainers 270.61
-itr rocker arms 150.
-jun 3 cams 960
-toda cam gears 300.00
-arp head bolts 90.
-Edelbrock victor x intake manifold 404.36
-j's racing intake with custom air ventalation to bumper 300.
-comptech! header 1000.
-370cc injectors 356.
-Darton block b18b1 84.5mm 2199.99
-je or wiesco 12.5:1 high compression pistons 490.
-ls crank 150.
-ib spec rods 390.
-arp rod bolts 45.
-z10 griddle 100.
-custom oil pan 429.00
-itr tranny 1200.
-hasports hrydo to cable convo 300.
-hondata 280.00
116 octance hondata tuned ,in an integra rs 94096 with crazy weight redutcion im expecint high hopes 240-250hp its in the works wha tu think?
-ericking racing 68mm throttle body 365
-JUN Valve Spring Kit 380.00
-ferra retainers 270.61
-itr rocker arms 150.
-jun 3 cams 960
-toda cam gears 300.00
-arp head bolts 90.
-Edelbrock victor x intake manifold 404.36
-j's racing intake with custom air ventalation to bumper 300.
-comptech! header 1000.
-370cc injectors 356.
-Darton block b18b1 84.5mm 2199.99
-je or wiesco 12.5:1 high compression pistons 490.
-ls crank 150.
-ib spec rods 390.
-arp rod bolts 45.
-z10 griddle 100.
-custom oil pan 429.00
-itr tranny 1200.
-hasports hrydo to cable convo 300.
-hondata 280.00
116 octance hondata tuned ,in an integra rs 94096 with crazy weight redutcion im expecint high hopes 240-250hp its in the works wha tu think?
09-12-2004, 12:28 AM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (YoungTunerAndLearner)
Expensive
Sounds like this is a "plan" and not actual....also a DART block is not a B18A/B/20B/Z block, its a VTEC block (LS head won't match up), so its technincally not a LSVTEC if the only thing LS is the stroke.
Before you spend that kind of money on a Honda (not including the cost of the car), you may look into something like a V8 Miata, or the V8 RX-7's.
I know its not crazy VTEC cool, but it will knock the socks off of what you propose.....course I would just get the DART block, a turbo kit....take my 250HP, and only spend half your budget.
Sounds like this is a "plan" and not actual....also a DART block is not a B18A/B/20B/Z block, its a VTEC block (LS head won't match up), so its technincally not a LSVTEC if the only thing LS is the stroke.
Before you spend that kind of money on a Honda (not including the cost of the car), you may look into something like a V8 Miata, or the V8 RX-7's.
I know its not crazy VTEC cool, but it will knock the socks off of what you propose.....course I would just get the DART block, a turbo kit....take my 250HP, and only spend half your budget.
09-12-2004, 10:05 AM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (Westrock2000)
i duno man. i think youre gonna end up being disappoined that you spent all that money and dont even have a fast car. you should just do that same **** you propose but instead of high compression shoot for like 8.5 or 9:1 and then boiost the **** outta it. THEN youll have some serious power.
n/a is cool as ****, but i could never justify it though. dollar/hp is insane when compared to a mildly built engine boosted to 1 bar or something.
n/a is cool as ****, but i could never justify it though. dollar/hp is insane when compared to a mildly built engine boosted to 1 bar or something.
09-12-2004, 10:07 AM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (YoungTunerAndLearner)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YoungTunerAndLearner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 head Port and Poilsh $900
-ericking racing 68mm throttle body 365
-JUN Valve Spring Kit 380.00
-ferra retainers 270.61
-itr rocker arms 150.
-jun 3 cams 960
-toda cam gears 300.00
-arp head bolts 90.
-Edelbrock victor x intake manifold 404.36
-j's racing intake with custom air ventalation to bumper 300.
-comptech! header 1000.
-370cc injectors 356.
-Darton block b18b1 84.5mm 2199.99
-je or wiesco 12.5:1 high compression pistons 490.
-ls crank 150.
-ib spec rods 390.
-arp rod bolts 45.
-z10 griddle 100.
-custom oil pan 429.00
-itr tranny 1200.
-hasports hrydo to cable convo 300.
-hondata 280.00
116 octance hondata tuned ,in an integra rs 94096 with crazy weight redutcion im expecint high hopes 240-250hp its in the works wha tu think?
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All that money and all you are after is 240-250 hp? A internally stock d series can put down those numbers.
-ericking racing 68mm throttle body 365
-JUN Valve Spring Kit 380.00
-ferra retainers 270.61
-itr rocker arms 150.
-jun 3 cams 960
-toda cam gears 300.00
-arp head bolts 90.
-Edelbrock victor x intake manifold 404.36
-j's racing intake with custom air ventalation to bumper 300.
-comptech! header 1000.
-370cc injectors 356.
-Darton block b18b1 84.5mm 2199.99
-je or wiesco 12.5:1 high compression pistons 490.
-ls crank 150.
-ib spec rods 390.
-arp rod bolts 45.
-z10 griddle 100.
-custom oil pan 429.00
-itr tranny 1200.
-hasports hrydo to cable convo 300.
-hondata 280.00
116 octance hondata tuned ,in an integra rs 94096 with crazy weight redutcion im expecint high hopes 240-250hp its in the works wha tu think?
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All that money and all you are after is 240-250 hp? A internally stock d series can put down those numbers.
09-12-2004, 01:27 PM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (YoungTunerAndLearner)
it be very reliable,i know your checking up on import builders cause they will offer alot cheaper fro everything u have cant wait to put it together chase!
09-12-2004, 06:43 PM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (YoungTunerAndLearner)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YoungTunerAndLearner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b16 head Port and Poilsh $900
-ericking racing 68mm throttle body 365
-JUN Valve Spring Kit 380.00
-ferra retainers 270.61
-itr rocker arms 150.
-jun 3 cams 960
-toda cam gears 300.00
-arp head bolts 90.
-Edelbrock victor x intake manifold 404.36
-j's racing intake with custom air ventalation to bumper 300.
-comptech! header 1000.
-370cc injectors 356.
-Darton block b18b1 84.5mm 2199.99
-je or wiesco 12.5:1 high compression pistons 490.
-ls crank 150.
-ib spec rods 390.
-arp rod bolts 45.
-z10 griddle 100.
-custom oil pan 429.00
-itr tranny 1200.
-hasports hrydo to cable convo 300.
-hondata 280.00
116 octance hondata tuned ,in an integra rs 94096 with crazy weight redutcion im expecint high hopes 240-250hp its in the works wha tu think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
$365 for a throttle body? Bore the stock one out it'll only cost a few dollars.
-ericking racing 68mm throttle body 365
-JUN Valve Spring Kit 380.00
-ferra retainers 270.61
-itr rocker arms 150.
-jun 3 cams 960
-toda cam gears 300.00
-arp head bolts 90.
-Edelbrock victor x intake manifold 404.36
-j's racing intake with custom air ventalation to bumper 300.
-comptech! header 1000.
-370cc injectors 356.
-Darton block b18b1 84.5mm 2199.99
-je or wiesco 12.5:1 high compression pistons 490.
-ls crank 150.
-ib spec rods 390.
-arp rod bolts 45.
-z10 griddle 100.
-custom oil pan 429.00
-itr tranny 1200.
-hasports hrydo to cable convo 300.
-hondata 280.00
116 octance hondata tuned ,in an integra rs 94096 with crazy weight redutcion im expecint high hopes 240-250hp its in the works wha tu think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
$365 for a throttle body? Bore the stock one out it'll only cost a few dollars.
09-12-2004, 07:28 PM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (EK22snatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EK22snatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i duno man. i think youre gonna end up being disappoined that you spent all that money and dont even have a fast car. you should just do that same **** you propose but instead of high compression shoot for like 8.5 or 9:1 and then boiost the **** outta it. THEN youll have some serious power.
n/a is cool as ****, but i could never justify it though. dollar/hp is insane when compared to a mildly built engine boosted to 1 bar or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was thinking the same think, but i was thinking going K series. just a thought
n/a is cool as ****, but i could never justify it though. dollar/hp is insane when compared to a mildly built engine boosted to 1 bar or something.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i was thinking the same think, but i was thinking going K series. just a thought
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (beta13)
youndtunerandlearner how young are you? it sounds like a nice build if you really want to spend that much. maybe you should just do it and then come back here with some dyno pulls and ets...
09-13-2004, 06:26 AM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (Crankdriven)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crankdriven »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
All that money and all you are after is 240-250 hp? A internally stock d series can put down those numbers. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea on maybe boost, 240-250 all motor HP in the right car will be in the 11's or 10's.
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All that money and all you are after is 240-250 hp? A internally stock d series can put down those numbers. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yea on maybe boost, 240-250 all motor HP in the right car will be in the 11's or 10's.
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (boosted_dc2)
Good hell I would hope that for 12G's you could get a hell of a lot more than 250hp. I know that for 12G's I could easily make 5-700. All motor is a happy idea but for spending that kind of cash your not going to have the power you could have on a different setup. However if thats how you want to build it then so be it. Its your car man build it how you want.
09-13-2004, 09:25 AM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (YoungTunerAndLearner)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YoungTunerAndLearner »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
-hasports hrydo to cable convo 300.
in an integra rs 94096 </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you could save $300 right there ... no need if I read it right.
-hasports hrydo to cable convo 300.
in an integra rs 94096 </TD></TR></TABLE>
I think you could save $300 right there ... no need if I read it right.
09-13-2004, 03:28 PM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (acy76)
K20A2 Swap = $3000
Mounting Kit = $2800
Hondata K-Pro = $995
Crower Stage 2/3 Cams = $1250
Total: $8,000
Approx. 220whp - 240whp and you still can add overbore tb, intake manifold, 12:1 compression, Hondata IMG, 90mm bore, bigger injectors, port&polish and 3-angle valve job.
Don't go B if you can go K.
Mounting Kit = $2800
Hondata K-Pro = $995
Crower Stage 2/3 Cams = $1250
Total: $8,000
Approx. 220whp - 240whp and you still can add overbore tb, intake manifold, 12:1 compression, Hondata IMG, 90mm bore, bigger injectors, port&polish and 3-angle valve job.
Don't go B if you can go K.
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (Alberto)
Dream with this:
Custom 3“ Intake
DTR FAB 4-2-1 Header
Custom 2.75“ Exhaust
Hondata K-Pro
Precision 580cc Injectors
Full-Race Intake Manifold*
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
Toda Racing High Compression Gasket
Crower Stage 2/3 Camshafts
Crower Retainers & Valve springs
70mm Throttle Body
Port & Polish
3-Angle Valve Job
AEM Pullies
90mmBore
92mm custom crankshaft
12:1 Pistons & Rods
Custom 3“ Intake
DTR FAB 4-2-1 Header
Custom 2.75“ Exhaust
Hondata K-Pro
Precision 580cc Injectors
Full-Race Intake Manifold*
Hondata Intake Manifold Gasket
Toda Racing High Compression Gasket
Crower Stage 2/3 Camshafts
Crower Retainers & Valve springs
70mm Throttle Body
Port & Polish
3-Angle Valve Job
AEM Pullies
90mmBore
92mm custom crankshaft
12:1 Pistons & Rods
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what the hell is so great about the k-series motors in my opinion the b-series all together design is better all in all the k-series is not woth the money in my opinion!
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I think the K series is a much better engine to start with and has a lot of potential but since it is soooo new the price just doesn't seem justifiable. I say you go B20 w/ turbo. No VTEC needed, it'll just complicate tuning.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmef-9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what the hell is so great about the k-series motors in my opinion the b-series all together design is better all in all the k-series is not woth the money in my opinion!</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah Kseries is about as much of a bandwagon thing to hop on as JDM parts, especially as of late!
yeah Kseries is about as much of a bandwagon thing to hop on as JDM parts, especially as of late!
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yeah Kseries is about as much of a bandwagon thing to hop on as JDM parts, especially as of late!</TD></TR></TABLE>
They are a better motor, especially when you get one through sponsorship!
yeah Kseries is about as much of a bandwagon thing to hop on as JDM parts, especially as of late!</TD></TR></TABLE>
They are a better motor, especially when you get one through sponsorship!
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (YoungTunerAndLearner)
i hope this isnt going to be a daily driver cus 110 octane will get insanely expensive after a while. i honestly dont think you will be close to 240whp. if u get that dart block and lower the compression, say **** the $1000 header and $960 cams, $450 oil pan, and $300 air intake you could get a decent turbo setup and actually put that dart block to use. its tested up to 55psi i believe. boost that bitch.
iether that or put that cash into a bigger motor.
iether that or put that cash into a bigger motor.
09-14-2004, 08:17 AM
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Re: My 12grand engine build...lsvtec (donkiman)
you guys can all stop replying to this topic - please see the bottom (last 3 posts here) https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=989933
to make it easy here are the last 3 posts
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adirondackR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> is this guy related to YoungTunerAndLearner see
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
as every one else says - do a LOT more research -
also PLEASE DO NOT POST IDENTICAL TOPICS IN MULTIPLE FORUMS (ie tech, all motor, & hybrid forums) thanks
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then his reply
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraRsLsVtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> youre kidding rite,dont try to say that guy is me,man thanks for the useless posts,i posted to cause i thought theres differnt ppl in each room...that guy is not going to get an ******* 12k engine stupid ***.....someone please help me out what gas to use?
thank you shant i cant get 108....but i can get 110 plus and c16 at dam good prices!!!ima get an 15 gallon drum and see how my engine likes it...
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then Evil Nick M stepped in
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Nick M »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is you, its the same IP address.
Banned.
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to make it easy here are the last 3 posts
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adirondackR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> is this guy related to YoungTunerAndLearner see
https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=1
as every one else says - do a LOT more research -
also PLEASE DO NOT POST IDENTICAL TOPICS IN MULTIPLE FORUMS (ie tech, all motor, & hybrid forums) thanks
</TD></TR></TABLE>
then his reply
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraRsLsVtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> youre kidding rite,dont try to say that guy is me,man thanks for the useless posts,i posted to cause i thought theres differnt ppl in each room...that guy is not going to get an ******* 12k engine stupid ***.....someone please help me out what gas to use?
thank you shant i cant get 108....but i can get 110 plus and c16 at dam good prices!!!ima get an 15 gallon drum and see how my engine likes it...
</TD></TR></TABLE>
then Evil Nick M stepped in
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Nick M »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is you, its the same IP address.
Banned.
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