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Old May 31, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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Okay so I was wondering, I am buying a Header for my LS/VTEC this week and I was wondering if there is a difference between a LS Header and a GSR/Type R Header?

My LS/VTEC is not exactly as satisfying as I thought it would be, but maybe thats because I chose not to do pistons yet (using stock LS). Basically my motor is lacking up top a little bit, so I figured maybe its because of the Stock LS Header and Throttle Body I have on it right now. Do you think those LS parts still being on my LS/VTEC are really holding me back?

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Old May 31, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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most likely because you are using the stock LS pistons is the main thing holding you back. I'm not too sure what the compression is but I'm guessing it's mid 9:1 and that's pretty low for a setup like ls/vtec

a header won't make much difference but if you do buy the header it would be best to get some higher compression pistons and you will feel the difference
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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pistons would be a big help however if your looking for a header than just get a four to one header like the jdm type r cuz it flows real well but any will do
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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what I need to know is an LS header the same as a gsr one? flow wise?

Because my friends Shop has a Header but its for a LS motor, is that the same part number as the one for a GSR?
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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BUMP

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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no sorry the GSR and LS headers ARE different... they wont line up right on the block.. from experience..
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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no sorry but i know that is wring because im using my stock ls header on my ls/vtec but what i want to know is the flow part of the 2
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 04:27 AM
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Default Re: LS/VTEC Header Question? VTEC or Non-VTEC? (JayDeeEmDC4)

What cams are you using? I have a friend who is using OBD-0 B16 cams and they are "like nubs on a cam". The car pulls hard but it lacks up top where you would think it would have alot of power.

Ls/Vtec-built bottem end. cam gears, intake, header, exhaust, no cat, vtec controller, and full MSD set-up.

Maybe you have the same problem. What year head do you have?

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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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i have a ls/vtec with b16a head. I'm using a the stock ex. manifold from a 91 ls. It fits perfectly. I didn't even have to cut or re-bend any of the exhaust when I went from an ls to the ls vtec. I don't have much power up top either. I built my bottom end to lower the compression. Low compression pistons and big cam lobes don't perform well together unless boosted.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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yea i know

i am using a 95 del sol vtec b16a3 head w/ my 99 block with 85k.

i think im gonna do cams this week (ctr intake, itr exhaust)

if not im gonna sell the motor as is for a gsr or just trade it straight up for a gsr.

any takers?
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Old Jun 5, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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ls/vtecs are monsters when you don't restrict the breathing... they love air. get better pistons, a better exhuast system (i.e. header, etc) and intake mani and tb. build your head if you have the money for it. i'm running .25 p72 pistons on my ls/vtec with a stock 16 head making 180whp.
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 06:00 AM
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i am building a second ls block now with p30 pistons and new rods? which kind<--?

also a block gaurd and rod bolts

hopefully it will be faster also a itr header
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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Default Re: (JayDeeEmDC4)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JayDeeEmDC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am building a second ls block now with p30 pistons and new rods? which kind&lt;--?

also a block gaurd and rod bolts

hopefully it will be faster also a itr header</TD></TR></TABLE>

Use your stock LS rods with the P30 pistons but get new rod bolts. Also ditch the block gaurd it's a waste of money. My build

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Old Jun 6, 2005 | 03:30 PM
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You sure its okay to stay with the LS rods? everyone is telling me to go with eagle or somethin? what you think i wanna rev to 9k
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by miller.91.HB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Use your stock LS rods with the P30 pistons but get new rod bolts. Also ditch the block gaurd it's a waste of money. My build

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that's a nice build... here's another quality build. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1161134 check the two other pages for updates and my dyno. itr pistons on ls rods.
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