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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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noob quetion but what do i do for axles ? I CAN'T AFFORD dss or hasport and i have the motor but don't know what axles for my 97 dc2
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Old Jan 6, 2009 | 09:01 PM
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If you have an 90-97 accord intermediate shaft (female) use 90-93 integra axles. Shouldnt cost much and i know part stores like autozone and adavnce have brand new ones for like 60-70 dollars plus tax
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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yeah but can i use the whole 93 integra axle on my dc2 or do i have to mickey mouse em? and shouldn't the intermediate shaft that came with my swap work f20b came from accord
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 09:21 AM
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let me put this in the easiest way possible. Its all about the halfshaft you use. If you use the one that came with the swap (which has a male connection) if im not mistaking on the driver side, which is happens to be a pain if you dont have the parts or know how to take axles apart, is the 86-89 integra axle and outboard joint with the 92-96 prelude inner and the passenger side is the 90-93 teg. But i gave you the easiest way which was 90-93 accord intermediate shaft (easiest to find could go to the junkyard and find it and pay like 15 dollars on a half-off day) and both DA axles. You decide how involved you want to get into it
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Old Jan 23, 2009 | 09:57 AM
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I'm doing F20b swap in 1997 Accord EX right now

Here are some things you can add to this FAQ.

The F20B does not have an h22a driver side engine mount. F20b uses Accord F22b driver side engine mount.

F20B distributor is OBD1 H22a with internal coil. The F20b distributor does not have a pin on the tach feed signal from the distributor. If your car has a dark blue wire coming out of the internal coil distributor, you have to add this tach feed wire to the ICM.

F20B does not have CKP or TDC sensors on the oil pump, they are in the distributor like OBD1

F20B alternator uses small square plug

F20b A/C compressor has different fittings than F22b

F20B has no power steering pump, but 97+ H22a bracket can be used to add power steering to 94-97 Accord

F20B is basically an OBD1 H22a with OBD2 plugs on some parts of the motor, and OBD1 plugs on other parts of the motor.

Easiest way to put this in a car that will be running OBD1 computer is to get an H22a intake manifold with 2 wire IACV and injectors etc.
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 05:57 AM
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you can use the F20b injectors since they do not require the resistor box. since there obd2 injectrors all you have to do is file down the outside so it fits in obd1 plugs. easy
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Old Jan 25, 2009 | 07:16 AM
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thats funny I can swear my friends f20b is an obd2(not only obd2 but obd2b)

all I am sure about is that this is EXACTLY the same head as the type s nothing special, it was made specifically for ukdm,cyprus,malta where taxes for a 2156cc h22 was wayyy to high and thus the h22 type s was replaced in favour for the destroked 2lt f20b its no different than the h22 type s (Iam talking about the head)

there is too much said about this motor,I hope one day someone will take it apart to prove facts about this motor, I mean even specs on it vary too much originally there are 2 versions a 200hp manual and a 180hp auto(which is the most common)

some sites say it makes 220-215,some say the power is delivered at 8000, all a lie unless its different for the jdm, Iam refering to edm and these are euro engines!

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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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i want to know wat parts from the h22 series fit the dohc f20b!...if anyone can tell me
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cd5Sonny
that is great news. With the iron sleeves and high compression i should be able to boost at like 5 pounds and make a nasty daily driver! Either that or keep it na not sure yet but always open to suggestions!
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Old Jan 26, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by V8 Eater
thats funny I can swear my friends f20b is an obd2(not only obd2 but obd2b)

all I am sure about is that this is EXACTLY the same head as the type s nothing special, it was made specifically for ukdm,cyprus,malta where taxes for a 2156cc h22 was wayyy to high and thus the h22 type s was replaced in favour for the destroked 2lt f20b its no different than the h22 type s (Iam talking about the head)

there is too much said about this motor,I hope one day someone will take it apart to prove facts about this motor, I mean even specs on it vary too much originally there are 2 versions a 200hp manual and a 180hp auto(which is the most common)

some sites say it makes 220-215,some say the power is delivered at 8000, all a lie unless its different for the jdm, Iam refering to edm and these are euro engines!

Umm...engines have been taken apart and we know the differences. Yes, the F20B has the same head as an H22 Type-S with the exception of the H22 having 1mm bigger valves. The 20HP gained from auto to manual is due to the Type-S cams and bigger throttle body, which move the powerband up more. The auto is obviously tuned for midrange.
With the Type-S cams, the power rating is "197 HP" (200 PS)..around 7,000 RPM. Free up the intake and exhaust, do some tuning and sure it will push the powerband up, and will make more than just noise at 8,500 RPM. Decent cams and valvetrain, 9,000 is possible (althought not proven to be entirely safe). This has been covered many times.

For boost, I'd probably supercharge it. A JRSC has been done on an H22 EG..plus it's probably cheaper, it's bolt-on, lighter, and it makes neat noises.

PSpec, good info.

Bense, if you're still around, do you think your F20B got nuked because you removed the balance shafts and still spun high RPM?

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Old Jan 31, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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Does anyone know if aftermarket h22 final drives fit in a f20b t2t4 transmission?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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anyone........?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by fatboy1185
Does anyone know if aftermarket h22 final drives fit in a f20b t2t4 transmission?
yes
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Old Feb 7, 2009 | 01:28 PM
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they do? Awesome!
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Old Mar 21, 2009 | 03:25 PM
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Referenced against a motor that came in here, and the pictures on the first page of this thread, anyone have a location to get the H/F Oil Pressure Sending Unit clip and dust boot?

Can anyone clarify they've used a standard ring terminal on the oil pressure sending unit lead for a B/D harness with a H/F motor?

Also, has anyone swapped the factory F20B knock sensor with a B-Series?

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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 08:14 PM
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Noob question what the hell can i do for wiring iac valve ??? Need help asap
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 03:22 PM
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Get a Rosko Racing adapter to put a 2-wire IACV on your H22 manifold, or get a Skunk2 intake with 2-wire IACV. There is a wiring diagram floating around that shows how to pin a 3-wire IACV to a 2-wire ECU, but that's as much as I've heard. No confirmation or anything.
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by F20B-CX
Get a Rosko Racing adapter to put a 2-wire IACV on your H22 manifold, or get a Skunk2 intake with 2-wire IACV. There is a wiring diagram floating around that shows how to pin a 3-wire IACV to a 2-wire ECU, but that's as much as I've heard. No confirmation or anything.
i have an f20b manifold rosko said it dosent work on my mani only euro r h22 manifold not f20 b anybody got link to wiring diagram tried search couldn't come up with any!
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by radaone1!
i have an f20b manifold rosko said it dosent work on my mani only euro r h22 manifold not f20 b anybody got link to wiring diagram tried search couldn't come up with any!
just put on a h22 mani
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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OBD1 H22 manifold..
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:19 AM
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noob question..

I was reading about the size of the valve, intake and exhaust.. but do I need F20B valves.. or can I use a b-series? H series is too wide.

I'm in a pickle, I bent two intake and two exhaust valves. and I need to replace them.

any hookups or info where to get them?
thanks in advance
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 11:45 AM
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From what I've seen, the exhaust valve is identical, but the intake valve is 1mm bigger. You could probably get away with running the H22 intake valve. Exhaust, definitely.
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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That sucks to hear that. Could you tell how you did that so that others dont make the same mistake.
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Old May 19, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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I read the thread and I want to ask when ordering the Balance Shaft Eliminator Kit from Kaizenspeed, For the F20B, Do I order the H22A1 or H22A4?
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