98LXcivic_kid

alright guys. so im pretty sure imma get flamed. just like i do on every post on here......but i have the chance to pick up a b20 w/16 built head. for $800 and found a guy selling a b18 tranny with a fidenza flywheel and a Excedy oem clutch for $1000. Just wondering if it would be worth swapping into my wifes 98 civic LX automatic or not. how big exactly of a PITA it would be. i can try and do most of the work i can by myself but i probably will need help. Im not a civic guy at all. I have only really worked on nissan's Lol. cant really find to much info. but if anyone has any write up's or anything that would help that would be awesome like i said before not much of a honda guy but ya never know with this project.....lol. i might even completely gut the car. seeing that we do have 3 cars........and its just me and my wife. Thanks guys!

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Define "worth it".

98LXcivic_kid

well as in have a somewhat fast little beater that wont be the usual rice burner civic. i plan to keep the thing as stock looking as possible. if i get the swap all in and complete i eventually wanna boost it.

98LXcivic_kid

98 LX automatic. Seems like the transmission swap and all is going to be a pain in the ***. Idk i might just fix it and sell it.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

I guess I don't understand these types of questions. Is it worth it to you? Is it worth your time? Your money? The Effort?

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

People do auto-manual swaps all the time. There's nothing wrong with the car that you mentioned. What needs fixing?

98LXcivic_kid

well it boggs down really bad from stop and go. and i think the exhaust gaskets on the ebay header are shot LOL it sounds like its straight piped 3in exhaust LOL. Imma change all the exhaust gaskets and put in new spark plugs and see if that fixes it.

98LXcivic_kid

i just want something that will be a complete sleeper and something that will be a smooth, simple swap, nothing thats gunna drain my bank account. If i want that id k24 swap it. Lol.

98LXcivic_kid

found the post about automatic to manual swap. FML. lol. how much would it cost to just take the dam car somewhere and have em swap motor and trans LOL.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

Call around and find a shop.

YOu might also want to check your timing while you're at it.

97civkid

It's really not that much work for a manual swap, I just did one on my 97 dx coupe, with help from one friend, it was a eight hour day but we got it done, with that being my first of expiriances on cars, not a hard job, just time consuming, I just researched the hell out of it and it was pretty strait forward.

97civkid

And I also looked in to getting it done by a shop, even at a friends shop he was goin to give me a flat rate of 400$, most shops charge up to 100 an hour, and that's just a tranny swap

Elementcct

Just wondering whats so great about the B20's? theres like 3 cats in my town runnin swapped B20's in Integras

hybridmiklo

they are cheap and have torque. Thats it

Elementcct

about how much they run $ wise? and what is stock torqe on them? They are heavier than most B series engines correct me if im wrong but they doent have that much torqe compared to a B also so why put a B20 in a Integra, they are more heavy than civic bodys. Im thinking about swapping soon into my 97 civic ex to actually give it some growl instead of purr lol, not sure on what motor will be my best power to weight ratio yet though.

Elementcct

when i said B i was reffering to B16 & B18 motors

JuggerNaut-CTR

What makes you think its heavier than any other b-series motor? They all weigh close to the same, less than 20 lb difference is nada.

b16...309 lbs
b20...317.9 lbs
b18b...326 lbs

JuggerNaut-CTR

hmmmm....more displacement=more power=push the car faster

Elementcct

Thats true, so what would be your prefference engine swap into a 97 civic?
And what Mtns you located? NC?

JuggerNaut-CTR

Preference would be k-series
Realistically, I nice mild built b20vtec does very well.

No not NC, cascade's in washington

Elementcct

well K series budget is out of my pay range lol i wish i could do that

speedjunkie_g35

I would rather have a GSR swap and just use a LS crank and rods for added torque. Just not a fan of the whole vtec head on a non vtec motor!!!

jdmh22eg2

Sleeved b20 + big turbo+ p8r + itr trans = FTW

JuggerNaut-CTR

7k revs on a boosted motor using a itr trans is pointless...spin ah spin and more spin.

jdmh22eg2

Not with correct weight balance/ camber (lack of), weight bar, DR's, and boost by gear, and most importantly proper suspention setup