ilovejdm

I have a 93 si Sol, this summer I'll be swapping it out, I have it down to two swaps because of my budget, a b16a or a ls swap, which do you guys suggest? my buddy said b16s are useless due to the lack of lowend torque so would I be better off with the ls? But I want to retain power steering and air conditioning, all of that, is it possible to retain all that with a ls? I just didnt no if there was enough room or not. Thanks for any help.

bigdogadam

i just swapped a b16 into my sol not even three days ago. one thing you have to remeber is that you are going to have to buy a b series shift linkage made just for the del sol from the dealer for the swap to work. ive tried integra linkages and civic b series linkages and none work. good luck with the swap. and eah you can keep the power steering and ac with either swap

ilovejdm

b20 is also another possibility but if the ac and ps wont work with the b18 they definately wouldnt with b20

ilovejdm

ok, thanks for the tip big dog, now just to decide which engine...

skip.two

go with the B18B.

will need the Del Sol VTEC shiftlinkage (as said before)
you can keep A/C using the Del Sol P54 bracket i believe. somebody correct me if i'm wrong.
hmm powersteering don't remember whats needed. probably more parts from the Del Sol VTEC.

please use the <u><FONT COLOR="red">Search</u></FONT> function.

B16 will require the same as above if you go with that engine.

oh and don't get the Del Sol Si and VTEC models mixed up.

Si - D16Z6/Y8
VTEC - B16A3/A2

ilovejdm

yeah I've been using the search option alot since I got on honda-tech. But any other info you guys can tell me would be a great help.

DelSolMarine

my del sol si has a B18C swap and i have both my ac and powersteering still in there so yes itll work u have to get the del sol vtec ac bracket.... i ordered everything from hmotorsonline.com

skip.two

what other info do you need? pro's and con's about these engines?
easily searchable, and there's a Stickie thread about engine swaps.

[FAQ] What swaps are available for my Civic?

if there's nothing else, it just seems like you'll be making a "this vs. that" thread. please don't

ilovejdm

nope, I guess that sums it up for my post for now, I decided to go with the b18b or b20 because it always has the potential for ls/vtec and because of the low end torque. I'll be getting everything from hmotors also. Thanks for the help.

dohcdelsol93

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If budget is an issue I'd just save for a GSR swap, building a B20/VTEC or LS/VTEC the proper way is very expensive, especially if you cannot assemble the engine yourself. The LS tranny sucks, especially with a VTEC engine. You'll be lucky to sell the LS tranny off for more than 400 bucks and then a S4C tranny (the cheapest hydro vtec tranny) will run you at least 600.

If your wanting to eventually build a hybrid engine I'd just piece together a swap. I pieced together a swap with a junk yard B18B and a S4C tranny/mounts/linkage/brackets from here on H-T for less than 1,700. It took me 6 months or so to get all the parts but it gave me time to buy everything I needed and wait for the best deals. If you search hard enough you can find a good B18B for less than $350.

ilovejdm

But isn't it worth it to pay a little bit more and get the 100% start up guarantee from hmotors and to know that all the sensors and everything will work? I believe its 2200 for the complete changeover b18b...but thats not including shipping...and yeah the trannys suck...I'll check and see if they have a tranny upgrade you can get with the package...

dohcdelsol93

any local junk yard I use gives a 100% start up guarentee but just don't tell them your putting the teggy engine in your civic. As for buying from HT, just check vouches. For every flaky seller on there there are a dozen good ones.

ilovejdm

ic, that may be something I need to consider, there aren't many junkyards close though here in middle missouri (that would have hondas that is) but I'm in no hurry. Thanks.

dohcdelsol93

the integra LS is popular nation wide and with all the tornados you guys have in the Kansas/Missu area I'd figure there would be a ton of insurance totaled cars in the junk yards.

B16CRXT

What rear bracket is used in teh del sol b18a swaps?