he probably meant to say 7200, that would make more sense...

 

Head is off...


Modified by Sam1am26 at 7:44 PM 3/15/2004

 

Modified by Sam1am26 at 2:48 PM 3/16/2004

 

 

If you upgrade the pistons w/o removing the block are you going to try to hone them for the new pistons/rings or are you just going to drop them in anyway? Just curious. Also if you are doing the piston thing are you going to mill the head to get a bump in compression still? Are you still looking at flat bottim valves? What's the plan stan? haha
The Pirate

 

so your gonna mill the head? i would not do that. id mill the block. they are cheaper in case u ever want to go back to an h23 to sell it or if the whole VTEC thing ends up not working out.

 

adam that doesn't really make to much sence. either way, decking a block or milling a head is irreversable.

ususally people mill a head because it is much easyier to take to a shop and do it.

in my case i just wanted to deck the block because i just love my h22 head to much and didn't want to mill it unessesarly. and milling your head 40 thousanths is alot, thats more than i decked my block.

but in his case he doesn't have the block out, bare and transportable, but the head he does


by the way adam what did you do to your leg?

 

Well... When I first got my prelude and began to research there were two things I knew I wanted to do... H23 VTEC and Boost... I guess in my quest to build the H23 VTEC, I forgot that after all is said and done this bitch is gonna be turbo-ed... So the low compression might not yield the best numbers before i go turbo but it will be just right for throwing boost at when the time comes... So, I am leaving the bottom end alone and I'm just going to have the head hot tanked and replace and components that look like its time go... Once the head is done it will be time to slap everything back together... Low-End Torque and VTEC

 

You 've already got the head off you could just drop some h22 pistons on those rods and just swap over the rings if they don't have too many miles and then you can still boost 11 psi Like Firedrake is. He is putting over 300 to the ground and has done so for a while without a problem on his stock H22 bottom end. Just a suggestion.

I was going to bump the compression on my engine and I ended up getting port work, springs, retainer, cams and gears, .020" mill as well as a LSD all because it was apart at the time.

 

If I was you I would not perform headwork and intake manifold upgrades right now since you are going to be running the h23 vtec with the stock bottom end, with this setup, you will have a very very low rod to stroke ratio, your motor will still redline at what all other h23's redline at, it is limited by your rod ro stroke ratio, and that guy who said he makes power up to 9200 rpm completely untrue because with a R/S less than 1.59 the speed of the piston will outrun the flame front anywhere past just over 8000 rpm unless he is running on some type of European superfuels, and also dont waste your money on flat valves either, they may bump the compression a little, but they just weigh more, and it requires getting new valvesprings and retainers, and then that will just lead to wearing out your valveseats faster, gl with your motor

 

I am in the process of starting an h22a head onto an h23a block...i have the head now but haven't got the h23 block yet cuz i want to see how much work it will be...i have a really good hookup on tha h23 tho so thats why i was wondering...i can get a perfectly runnin h23 complete for 150...prob round 200 wit the tranny too...so if someone can please break it down as to what i would need to get to make it work...like i was told i would need the intake and exhaust manifolds from the h22a and like the timing belt...and an oil pump (but from what i have read from u guys it seems more like the squiters were what the kid i was talkin to was talkin about) but what else would there be...i would imagine the ecu for the h22a would def be a thing i would need but other than that i am really out..so any help from you guys would help tons...thanks

 

i am in the process of making my lude a h23 vtec and i have a few questions if someone can help me it would be great.... first off where do u get the oil squirters and how much $$ do they run and second... since im keeping my h23 pistons will it damage the head or do i need a bigger head gasket if i need a bigger head gasket where do you find them and how much $$ do they run thanks

 

ok again i am asking this question what is the wiring of the h23 vtec is it obd I or obd II or both ????? please someone fill me in i see some of you have this already i have this h23 vtec in a 97 accord so please help a brotha out would be greatly appreciated !!!! especially you sam1am26 you already have this swap running my yahoo im is cjb10275 and aol is cb10275 so please anyone help a brotha out again !!

 

Check my sig; i have some oil squirters for sale.

 

ripdm i have oil jets for sale. not using them in my 2.3vtec w/ 22k+ on it. u can use factory gasket unless you were to get oversized 2.3 pistons then you bore and get the HG to complement.

thetrueefusion, i'd buy that setup either way if i was you. could make a nice turn around profit if you didn't use it. especially since i could use another tranny i have a 2.3 block for sale, bare.

cjb10275 the motor can be what you want it to be. YOUR car is obdII. most all vehicles past 1996 are obdII. the motor if g4 will be obdI, if g4 1996 to g5 and up it will be obdII. you may change over the ecm to obdI with adapters that are for sale.

 

i understand that 93si4ws but i want the damn thing to start obdII harness obdII head obdI block obdII ecu or ecm and a 94 obdI distributor **** will not start does crank but does not start but thanks for responding back because most of these people treat a brotha like he is casper (don't see me unless i am talkin about boosting my ****) just want it to run naturally aspirated for now

 

Things left to do...

- Install Lower Crank Gear
- Install Water Pump
- Install Rear Water Pipe
- Install Head Gasket and Head
- Install Timing Belt
- Install Valve Cover
- Install P13 ECU
- Enjoy...

Unfortunately, I am still waiting on a few of those parts but I am almost done... Time and Money, the two things I need lots of and don't have...

 

Ive ordered all the remaining parts, should be here midweek and everything should be together by this weekend...

 

93si4ws--- how much do u want 4 those oil jets?? do i have 2 mill the head or anything like that? if i take the h23 head off and put the h22 head on when i rev it out not too hard like to 7000 will my stock h23 rods hit the head and cause damage thats what im scared of
thaks
mike

 

with the H23 Vtec, does it matter what year the H22 head comes off of? (92-96 or 92-01????)another thing. the oil squiters.. if i normally run at like 3500-4k to shift (nonracing) and upwards of 7500 or what ever for the Vtec, with it make the motor explode or go boom? i understand concept of the H23 Vtec and am thinkin of doin it. but i dont want to blow the motor.

 

everyone doing h23 vtec today now. i don't know why you would unless you were going to build it right why break apart a motor and put stock internals back in it when you can run better after market ones that can handle abuse so you are certain it will run.

 

guys this thread is about sams build i mean i know ithas to do with the h23 vtec, but thats why we hae a specific thread dedicated to h23 vtec build https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=510617

im just saying people shouldn't be posting for sales and want to buys in here, and just asking random h23 vtec questions. i thik the questions are better asked in the h23 vtec thread,

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ripdm03 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">93si4ws--- how much do u want 4 those oil jets?? do i have 2 mill the head or anything like that? if i take the h23 head off and put the h22 head on when i rev it out not too hard like to 7000 will my stock h23 rods hit the head and cause damage thats what im scared of
thaks
mike</TD></TR></TABLE>

7k should be good, but i would dyno tune, and then detirmien the place to put you fuel cut, somewhere around 7 k

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tarheelsoldier &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with the H23 Vtec, does it matter what year the H22 head comes off of? (92-96 or 92-01????)another thing. the oil squiters.. if i normally run at like 3500-4k to shift (nonracing) and upwards of 7500 or what ever for the Vtec, with it make the motor explode or go boom? i understand concept of the H23 Vtec and am thinkin of doin it. but i dont want to blow the motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

92-01 h22 vtec heads will work, oil squirters are in the h22 or a reason, i would put them in my h23 vtec if i made one, and 7500 is to high to rev the stock bottom end of h23, your gonna make it go boom

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastlude69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">everyone doing h23 vtec today now. i don't know why you would unless you were going to build it right why break apart a motor and put stock internals back in it when you can run better after market ones that can handle abuse so you are certain it will run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so if i pull my h23 head off, what after market products would you say to put in??? you can't put anything in but stock parts unless you sleve, the oonly thing you could change would ne to put cams in. and the reason people are sticking with stock parts is because keeping stuff as close to stock in peoples minds somewhat provides a sence of security with factory part life

 

this is true fastlude sam1am26 is tearing his **** down and doing it the right way i am doing one also because i blew my h22a block just trying to get the **** started and i want to do a better crank connecting rods and pistons and port and polish so what are you driving trying to network on this engine swap ****

 

I just put the head on... Yippee... Looks Beautiful.... Hooking up all the connectors and coolant lines right now, I still don't have my p13 ecu and I'm not sure if I want to use the P14 just to see if it will run... hmmm... pictures in a little bit...