Changing timing belt and head gasket
02-19-2002, 02:14 AM
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Changing timing belt and head gasket
I'd like to change my timing belt, all other belts, and my head gasket. I have never done this before and wanted to know how difficult it is to do all of this, and if I should do this myself or take it to a shop. I just don't want to fu(k things up.
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02-19-2002, 03:23 AM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (Piston_Honda)
Should be no problem if you have a service manual and some mechanical skills 
I was able to do a head gasket/cams/timing belt in 4.5 hours.. but I have do about 13 B16a heads and timing belts before 
Good luck
I was able to do a head gasket/cams/timing belt in 4.5 hours.. but I have do about 13 B16a heads and timing belts before Good luck
02-19-2002, 08:53 AM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (JDM_DOHC_SiR)
Go here:
http://www.crxsi.com/resources/repai...e_timing_belt/
the hardest part is getting the crank pulley bolt off. I had to buy a 20 inch extension for my socket wrench (I don't have an impact wrench).
[Modified by red civic standard, 5:54 PM 2/19/2002]
http://www.crxsi.com/resources/repai...e_timing_belt/
the hardest part is getting the crank pulley bolt off. I had to buy a 20 inch extension for my socket wrench (I don't have an impact wrench).
[Modified by red civic standard, 5:54 PM 2/19/2002]
02-19-2002, 10:28 AM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (red civic standard)
Yeah I was looking at that link earlier, it "seems" easy. Mahalos for the replies.
02-19-2002, 10:44 AM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (Piston_Honda)
The most difficult part is removing the crank pulley.
Average timing belt job from my experience...
2 minutes to pull the car in to the garage
2 minutes to gather the tools
2 hours 45 minutes trying all of the things you've seen on the internet that supposidly take the crank pulley right off but usually don't
1 hour going in and asking on h-t and grabbing some food.
1 hour trying new ideas that were posted
15 min checking for any new responses
20 min going to a diesel shop where they have a powerful 3/4" impact and torches
10 min driving home and actually getting started
1 hour later you're finished.
The one exception to this would be the time I didn't have the bolt tight enough after it was broken loose with the 3/4" impact. The pulley came off, belts broke, pulley got screwed etc etc. It was a sunday, so I couldn't get an new pulley. God do I hate that pulley bolt. It's the only thing on the car that is worse than the shift linkage pin.
Average timing belt job from my experience...
2 minutes to pull the car in to the garage
2 minutes to gather the tools
2 hours 45 minutes trying all of the things you've seen on the internet that supposidly take the crank pulley right off but usually don't
1 hour going in and asking on h-t and grabbing some food.
1 hour trying new ideas that were posted
15 min checking for any new responses
20 min going to a diesel shop where they have a powerful 3/4" impact and torches
10 min driving home and actually getting started
1 hour later you're finished.
The one exception to this would be the time I didn't have the bolt tight enough after it was broken loose with the 3/4" impact. The pulley came off, belts broke, pulley got screwed etc etc. It was a sunday, so I couldn't get an new pulley. God do I hate that pulley bolt. It's the only thing on the car that is worse than the shift linkage pin.
02-19-2002, 05:24 PM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (therealciviczc)
Here's what I did to get the crank pulley bolt loose.
Jack up the front of the car and take off the wheel.
Use a 20 inch extension on your socket wrench so that the wrench is outside of the wheel well
Support the 20 inch extension with an extra jackstand so that you are torquing the bolt straight on.
Put a pipe on the end of your socket wrench so that you have a longer lever arm.
Jump on the pipe.
Should come right off.
Jack up the front of the car and take off the wheel.
Use a 20 inch extension on your socket wrench so that the wrench is outside of the wheel well
Support the 20 inch extension with an extra jackstand so that you are torquing the bolt straight on.
Put a pipe on the end of your socket wrench so that you have a longer lever arm.
Jump on the pipe.
Should come right off.
02-19-2002, 06:48 PM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (crxconnection)
Air tools are you best friend... I have never had a crank pulley give me problems... IF you don't have air tools, buy a crank pulley tool, and the longest breaker bar you can find... then put them on in a postition where you can turn them against each other... It's never taken me more than a minute to yank crank pulley....
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02-20-2002, 12:49 AM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (Lt. Dan)
Ah, sounds like some Macguyver action. What about the head gasket, I have a d16a6, can I use the d16y8 gasket to raise compression a little more? How much higher will it be? Realcivic, that sounded like a bad day.
[Modified by Piston_Honda, 11:51 PM 2/19/2002]
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02-20-2002, 07:41 AM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (Lt. Dan)
BAD DAY? How about a bad life!! I think I can trace every problem in my life to the crank pulley bolt in one way or another. I can't sleep at night thinking about those things.
I've had four that the strongest IR 1/2" gun made couldn't touch. 2 of them were on a huge compressor that serivces a 6 bay garage. We even tried heat... still nothing.
For 3 of those 4, I used my dad's 3/4" drive impact. I hit it with bursts for about 10 minutes, then just cranked straight for about another 5 before it came off. The gun has (I think) 800 reverse ft/lb.
For the breaker bar solution, the last one I tried just broke one of my 1/2" extensions (Craftsman).
Its amazing that some people never run in to a tough one, and I seem to get a lot of them that won't come off. I've probably only done 6 or 7 and 4 of them were damn near imposible. Maybe its because they're almost all 4th G cars, I live in Ohio, and none of them are garage kept cars.
[Modified by therealciviczc, 4:43 PM 2/20/2002]
I've had four that the strongest IR 1/2" gun made couldn't touch. 2 of them were on a huge compressor that serivces a 6 bay garage. We even tried heat... still nothing.
For 3 of those 4, I used my dad's 3/4" drive impact. I hit it with bursts for about 10 minutes, then just cranked straight for about another 5 before it came off. The gun has (I think) 800 reverse ft/lb.
For the breaker bar solution, the last one I tried just broke one of my 1/2" extensions (Craftsman).
Its amazing that some people never run in to a tough one, and I seem to get a lot of them that won't come off. I've probably only done 6 or 7 and 4 of them were damn near imposible. Maybe its because they're almost all 4th G cars, I live in Ohio, and none of them are garage kept cars.
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02-20-2002, 10:52 AM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (therealciviczc)
yeah, that sounds pretty bad. Lol, maybe they know it won't come off so they take it to you to **** you off more.
02-20-2002, 03:26 PM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (Piston_Honda)
Yeah that crank pulley bolt is a total pain in the ***, i broke 2 sockets before the dam bolt would break loose. I used the same method as crxconnection, but i ended up jamming a chisel in the flywheel to keep the crank pulley from spinning and i used tons of liquid wrench.
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (CRzex)
How we got the crank pulley off...
We had put the car in 3rd gear, held the brakes down, big breaker bar, 20 inch of extensions, and broke my old aluminum hockey stick, and used it for leverage, 2 people pulled it, and bam, after 2 days messing with that bitch, with air tools. lol. The rest of the job, timing belt, was easy, was on a ZC.
We had put the car in 3rd gear, held the brakes down, big breaker bar, 20 inch of extensions, and broke my old aluminum hockey stick, and used it for leverage, 2 people pulled it, and bam, after 2 days messing with that bitch, with air tools. lol. The rest of the job, timing belt, was easy, was on a ZC.
02-21-2002, 06:18 AM
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Re: Changing timing belt and head gasket (CimorelliCRX)
Just because I'm on a roll here with my complaints, when I tried the above method, I was able to crank the civic up over a 4X4 piece of wood that was blocking the tire with the brakes on. I'm telling ya, you'll know when you get a tough one. They're always a pain, but sometimes they're almost impossible. Couldn't believe the car was moving with the brakes on!
[Modified by therealciviczc, 3:19 PM 2/21/2002]
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