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Old 01-08-2003, 06:20 PM
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Can anyone fully explain what it is? and how to attain one? i know if u get a bar sticker, you pass smog, even if it is a jdm swap. but thats just what ive heard. thanx
Old 01-08-2003, 07:28 PM
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i wanna know more about this too.
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You wont pass if you have a jdm motor, unless the referree is ignorant and didnt know that it is. In order to get a BAR sticker, your new motor has to be the same year or newer. There are a lot of referree stations around, just check your local dmv and ask for a list. Passing is quite difficult because you need to pass visual inspection along with emissions. Visual means that all that is attached originally to the motor you're getting has to be on your car, like stock airbox, sensors etc. and if its an obd1 or 2 motor, you have to run it the same way...so you need to convert your wiring and use ecu that came with the donor car. These are all technical rules but there are ways around it. I passed running nonobd on my obd2 motor with a jdm itr header (under heatshield) because the ref didnt know any better. just my luck.
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well i guess its a good thing i have a hookup then!
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Default Re: California bar sticker... (EF_LSVtec)

looks just like mine!...

EF_LSvtec: i have a JDM B18c and the ref that did my car wasnt ignorant...he acutally educated me with a full 3 page print out when i played dumb about the motor...then he said "we use to not take JDM motors but now we do if everything is hooked up"
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Default Re: California bar sticker... (wuhungsixxx)

where are you located....i wanna go to that ref.. Lol
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where are you located....i wanna go to that ref.. Lol
Sacramento, i think the street was buisness dr....not to bad of a drive for you but what motor you running cuz i dont think you can get a first gen b16a to pass...there is no USDM equivelent(sp?)
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where are you located....i wanna go to that ref.. Lol

Sacramento, i think the street was buisness dr....not to bad of a drive for you but what motor you running cuz i dont think you can get a first gen b16a to pass...there is no USDM equivelent(sp?)
I know someone that just used a Del Sol VTEC (b16a3) intake manifold and with obd0 injectors and ecu to get their b16 to pass. But this was a few years back and I'm not sure that it will work now. What ECU setup did you have to use to get the b18c to pass?
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Default Re: California bar sticker...

that sticker looks familiar. anyways, i've seen a sticker like that on a '88 h/b with jdm gsr motor. it's possible for a jdm motor to pass in cali. skyline college is probably a fair place to get it done, yet stricted, but if you could talk, it'll be to your advantage. the main purpose is to pass smog.


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Default Re: California bar sticker... (Noahk)

Noahk-

USDM OBD1 P72 stock ...by ht eway that particular smog station wants a parts print up to prove you have the correct ecu

hehe its great being able to oWn! CA smog restrictions


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Old 01-09-2003, 04:10 PM
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Default Re: California bar sticker... (wuhungsixxx)

thanx for all the replys.
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Default Re: California bar sticker... (EF-9SiR)

You should pass like the guy said, everything stock and hooked up no loose wires or unplugged, CAT and stock intake you should be fine, O and if the motor is same year or newer than your car...

p.S CALI owns all your lousy *** states!
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test only smogs suck.... for a JDM b16a to pass i hear you would have to switch from OBD0 to OBD1 to duplicate the setup on the Del Sol b16a
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i been to the referree 4 time to be able to pass my b18c1 motor and i live in orange county, the ref are *******, their make me fix little stuff.
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Default Re: California bar sticker... (egbomx)

they will pass JDM motors. They dont really care if it is jdm or not, they only care if the swap has been done correctly (not ghetto rigged) , and all the smog equipment is working. i passed my jdm gsr in southern cali, so its definitely possible. you just have to do your homework.
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Wuhungsixxx,

You don't happen to have that 3 page print out in soft copy form do ya? Can you post it up here or e-mail it to me... thanks...
Old 01-10-2003, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: California bar sticker... (CrxSi707)

quick question....what happens if you fail the test at the smog ref place? oh how much did you guys pay?
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Default Re: California bar sticker... (wuhungsixxx)

Noahk-

USDM OBD1 P72 stock ...by ht eway that particular smog station wants a parts print up to prove you have the correct ecu

hehe its great being able to oWn! CA smog restrictions

[Modified by wuhungsixxx, 4:11 PM 1/9/2003]
What do you mean "parts print up"? Can't they just read the side of the ECU? I'm never been to a ref, and hope I never have to Did they make you provide a receipt for the engine too?
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Default Re: California bar sticker... (Noahk)

i just went to the acura dealership and asked them for a print up that shows the p72 is for a 94-95 interga gsr...they were ignorant to what ecu i was suppose to be running...i dont know why since i heard they had every diagram possible on cd-rom...

...and as far as the 3 page printout for the motors and corrisponding vehicles...no i dont have that...its just something they (smog refs) showed me in an attempt to educate my dumb ***..they never gave me a copy...u could probably request one from them
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