When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur
11-14-2004, 03:53 PM
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When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur
If it breaks? The Honda I just picked up has 52k miles and the book says 100k miles until replacement but that seems long. Is the 1.6L motor interference and will hit a valve into a piston if the belt breaks or jumps? TIA
11-14-2004, 03:56 PM
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (Intercooler)
most change it around 60,000 i would change all the belts that way you know they are all good. also change the water pump too. since its right there when the belts are getting changed.
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (cxSHOE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cxSHOE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most change it around 60,000 i would change all the belts that way you know they are all good. also change the water pump too. since its right there when the belts are getting changed.
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Very good idea.
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Very good idea.
11-14-2004, 04:03 PM
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (Intercooler)
Is it a PITA to change the timing belt? Is the cover easily removable to inspect it?
11-14-2004, 04:04 PM
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (Intercooler)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Intercooler »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it a PITA to change the timing belt? Is the cover easily removable to inspect it? </TD></TR></TABLE>
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11-14-2004, 04:10 PM
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (Intercooler)
I think it is a Y16?
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (Intercooler)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Intercooler »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think it is a Y16?
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haa haa ,,
ok what year car and what model.. (example 96 honda civic 2 door ex )
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haa haa ,,
ok what year car and what model.. (example 96 honda civic 2 door ex )
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Change your timing belt as stated in your manual unless you are under the "severe driving" criteria. The belts are designed to be changed at this interval. And you are wasting your money/time if you change an original belt prior to the interval.
If you dont know how long a T-belt change should take you shouldnt be doing one. Yes the 1.6L is an interference engine, and yes it is a in depth process to change it.
If you dont know how long a T-belt change should take you shouldnt be doing one. Yes the 1.6L is an interference engine, and yes it is a in depth process to change it.
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (Intercooler)
Timing belt, water pump, timing belt tensioner, should all be changed at the same time - I have done mine every 60,000 to 70,000 miles.....
11-21-2004, 06:25 AM
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (Intercooler)
The book on the car says 100,000 miles unless you live in extreme temperatures which I don't. How much does it run to have the belt, pump, pulley, etc... changed?
11-21-2004, 09:18 AM
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Re: When does the timing belt need changed on a 1.6L and can damage occur (Intercooler)
are you sure its its 100k miles & not 100k kms (62.5k miles) ? I have not heard of 100k miles recommended replacement time by Honda before, its definitely very high. most jap and uk models have 62k-70k in the books depending on the model. service book for my eg6 states 62k, atr at 70k. Personally, I change the belt at 60k miles regardless of the climate temps, and replace pump/tensioner at 100k service if they were in good condition at 60k. usually the signs of the tensioner going is the diesel engine sound.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Change your timing belt as stated in your manual unless you are under the "severe driving" criteria. The belts are designed to be changed at this interval. And you are wasting your money/time if you change an original belt prior to the interval. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda also says you only have to change your oil every 5-7k miles and only change your oil filter every other oil change. Do you follow that also?
It doesn't hurt to be on the safe side. If they break, you're screwed. I changed all my belts (including timing) on my B16A2 at 55k.
You can do it yourself if you have the right tools, time, and have some common sense. There are a couple of tutorials on here that you can search for (search for: timing belt change), but I suggest you pick yourself up a repair manual and read how to do it. Then set aside a weekend and try it out. Good luck
Honda also says you only have to change your oil every 5-7k miles and only change your oil filter every other oil change. Do you follow that also?
It doesn't hurt to be on the safe side. If they break, you're screwed. I changed all my belts (including timing) on my B16A2 at 55k.
You can do it yourself if you have the right tools, time, and have some common sense. There are a couple of tutorials on here that you can search for (search for: timing belt change), but I suggest you pick yourself up a repair manual and read how to do it. Then set aside a weekend and try it out. Good luck
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lax1185 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda also says you only have to change your oil every 5-7k miles and only change your oil filter every other oil change. Do you follow that also?
It doesn't hurt to be on the safe side. If they break, you're screwed. I changed all my belts (including timing) on my B16A2 at 55k.
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Well its up to you I guess, if you are really that fearful that your belt is going to break before the interval then go for it.....but I called up my dealer yesterday just to make sure I wasnt going to destroy my engine and they lauged at me for wanting to change it at 75,000 mi......my interval is at 100,000mi.
In my opinion, you are just ****.
It doesn't hurt to be on the safe side. If they break, you're screwed. I changed all my belts (including timing) on my B16A2 at 55k.
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Well its up to you I guess, if you are really that fearful that your belt is going to break before the interval then go for it.....but I called up my dealer yesterday just to make sure I wasnt going to destroy my engine and they lauged at me for wanting to change it at 75,000 mi......my interval is at 100,000mi.
In my opinion, you are just ****.
11-21-2004, 05:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lax1185 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It doesn't hurt to be on the safe side. If they break, you're screwed. I changed all my belts (including timing) on my B16A2 at 55k.</TD></TR></TABLE>
although i agree that you should swap parts out a bit early, that is a bit excessive. timing belt interval in a b series motor are 100k, but on d series the interval is 60k. i have seen them go as high as 102k before snapping, but i think you are risking it with anything over 70k.
although i agree that you should swap parts out a bit early, that is a bit excessive. timing belt interval in a b series motor are 100k, but on d series the interval is 60k. i have seen them go as high as 102k before snapping, but i think you are risking it with anything over 70k.
11-21-2004, 05:28 PM
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it's not so tough if you know what your doing.
the toughest part are tough bolts,
like the crank pulley bolt,
but ur car has low miles so it's probly not seized on there or anything.
heres a tip, this is what I do to get it off.
put it in like 5th, have someone hold the brakes HARD(or jam the pedal down with something)
then pop it off with a 1/2" drive socket and a breaker bar.
after that you're good to go.
and definetely change the waterpump while you're in there.
personally i'd probly do it around 75k, but thats me.
the toughest part are tough bolts,
like the crank pulley bolt,
but ur car has low miles so it's probly not seized on there or anything.
heres a tip, this is what I do to get it off.
put it in like 5th, have someone hold the brakes HARD(or jam the pedal down with something)
then pop it off with a 1/2" drive socket and a breaker bar.
after that you're good to go.
and definetely change the waterpump while you're in there.
personally i'd probly do it around 75k, but thats me.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schlit »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Change your timing belt as stated in your manual unless you are under the "severe driving" criteria. The belts are designed to be changed at this interval. And you are wasting your money/time if you change an original belt prior to the interval.
If you dont know how long a T-belt change should take you shouldnt be doing one. Yes the 1.6L is an interference engine, and yes it is a in depth process to change it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
EXACTLY....do you people think Honda just quotes time intervals in the owners manuals for the hell of it?? Change the belts early if you want to, but it does about as much good as changing oil early....it accomplishes nothing but a drain on your wallet. Hondas maintenance intervals are ALL conservative because they assume most people aren't going to maintain their car they way they're supposed to so if they gave actual lifespan intervals for changes on parts, just imagine how many people would go over them and end up with expensive problems.
It's no different than an expiry date on a carton of milk....it means that the milk is guaranteed to last at least as long as the date posted on it...it doesn't mean that on that day or one day later it turns into cottage cheese.
This isn't rocket science guys, just common sense...
If you dont know how long a T-belt change should take you shouldnt be doing one. Yes the 1.6L is an interference engine, and yes it is a in depth process to change it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
EXACTLY....do you people think Honda just quotes time intervals in the owners manuals for the hell of it?? Change the belts early if you want to, but it does about as much good as changing oil early....it accomplishes nothing but a drain on your wallet. Hondas maintenance intervals are ALL conservative because they assume most people aren't going to maintain their car they way they're supposed to so if they gave actual lifespan intervals for changes on parts, just imagine how many people would go over them and end up with expensive problems.
It's no different than an expiry date on a carton of milk....it means that the milk is guaranteed to last at least as long as the date posted on it...it doesn't mean that on that day or one day later it turns into cottage cheese.
This isn't rocket science guys, just common sense...
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Hrmmmmm.
I bought my civic used with 40K miles on it. Im now almost at 150K miles and havent replaced the timing belt.
I dont plan on keeping my car much longer, maybe a year or two. What do you guys think about riding it out considering Ive come so far already?
Hrmmmmm.
I bought my civic used with 40K miles on it. Im now almost at 150K miles and havent replaced the timing belt.
I dont plan on keeping my car much longer, maybe a year or two. What do you guys think about riding it out considering Ive come so far already?
11-21-2004, 07:07 PM
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the factory already designs a factor of safety when setting service intervals. i did 7500mile oilchanges (with synthetic) and t-belt at 105k on my old accord. it has run like new since day 1, and it has over 140kmi now.
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Hrmmmmm.
I bought my civic used with 40K miles on it. Im now almost at 150K miles and havent replaced the timing belt.
I dont plan on keeping my car much longer, maybe a year or two. What do you guys think about riding it out considering Ive come so far already? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not keeping the car much longer in my mind = a few months maybe, but if you're talking 1-2 years.. CHANGE IT! It's definitely due...
Hrmmmmm.
I bought my civic used with 40K miles on it. Im now almost at 150K miles and havent replaced the timing belt.
I dont plan on keeping my car much longer, maybe a year or two. What do you guys think about riding it out considering Ive come so far already?
</TD></TR></TABLE>Not keeping the car much longer in my mind = a few months maybe, but if you're talking 1-2 years.. CHANGE IT! It's definitely due...
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