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Old 05-29-2003, 08:37 PM
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just wondering how much hp's and tq's is it gonna take to make a 99 si to do 12sec passes? is it possible with my setup

my set up--
ls/vtec,
B18A block
stock B18A LS rods shot peenied
stock B18A pistons
Arp rod bolts
B16 head bolts
stock 93 B16A SiR2 head
stock vavletrain
comectics boost head gasket
STR block guard
GSR oil pump, water pump and timing belt

STR feul rail
SX Performance regulator

also got nuespeed springs
skunk2 cambers
Nitto 555R drag on Si wheels
Y21 LSD in a 99 si tranny

waiting to get a hondata to put my drag 3 kit on with Greddy type 24 IC and 440 RC injectors{hondata ain't cheap for obd2 cars}
to control boost i got a Apexi AVC-R
i am prolly going to get it tuned at RaVer Motorsport in Visalia

how much boost should i shoot for when i got to get it tuned?




Modified by EAZY at 6:16 AM 5/30/2003
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230 WHP put me 107mph in the 1/4. almost 80 in the 1/8th. traction shoulda put the car mid low 12's. that was 6 psi on a 9:1 engine. and that was also full audio in the trunk.
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (boostedcivicsir)

man, thats the basically the same setup imma run(lsvtec) but mines will be in a hatch that weighs about 2200lbs with me in it...

on slicks and tuned i'll prolly tip 12s...

a diet is the key

heres my setup

b18a w\ctr pistons
b16a head PnP by LDL
itr dual valve springs
skunk2 stage 1
ITR manifold(soon)
gsr oil pump\water pump\t-belt
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (DOHCtorTHRUST)

Dont **** around with those 555's just get some real slicks. Thats the first thing you should do.
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (boostedcivicsir)

boostedcivicsir: 6 psi on a 9:1 engine, with tractions you wouldve hit mid to low 12s damn thats good

dohctorthrust: ? B18A with CTR pistons. is it an daily driven motor, isn't that kinda high for daily driven?

civicrights: you said get some real slicks, you talking bout wrinkle walls right, do they come in sizes to fit 15" Si rims?

Anybody know a good shop around the bay or valley in cali where i can get it tuned?
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (EAZY)

Here is an example of a car running 11's and capable of much more.

Here is a link to his 11/sec 1/4 Mile Run:
http://www.jcarsofindiana.com/...n.wmv





INFO IS AS FOLLOWS:

-93 Civic DX

Chassis:
-Ford Grabber Blue paint
-Amber corner lights
-Rota Sub Zero 15" wheels
-Kuhmo (R) Michelin (F) 205/50/15 tires
-Jamex struts
-Ground Control coilovers
-Skunk 2 upper control arms
-Competition Engeneering traction system
-ARP extended lug studs
-90 Integra rear disc brakes
-91 Civic LX 15/16 master cylinder

Drivetrain:
-96 USDM B18C1 swap
-Golden Eagle sleeves
-JE 9:1 .020 overbore pistons
-Eagle H-beam rods
-ARP head studs
-Crower dual valvesprings
-Crower Titanium retainers
-mild port work
-new oil pump, bearings, gaskets, ect.
-JG/Edelbrock intake manifold, polished
-Delphi injectors
-BJ's fuel rail
-BBK 70mm throttle body
-Indy Race Cores Radiator w/Spal fan
-Clutchmasters Twin Disc clutch kevlar/kevlar
-Clutchmasters flywheel made by Fidanza
-Accel plug wires

Turbo system:
-Turbonetics T-61 turbo w/ polished housing
-SFP race manifold
-Tial 40mm wastegate
-Tial blow off valve
-manual boost controller
-3" downpipe and upper intercooler pipe
-2.5" lower intercooler pipe
-Indy Race Cores intercooler
-3" Exhaust with Apex'i N1 muffler

Fuel System:
-Triangle Engeneering 10 gal. cell w/ sending unit
-Aeromotive 1000hp pump
-Aeromotive billet uluminum filter
-Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
-Aeromotive pump voltage regulator
-Goodridge lines and fittings
-B&M fuel pressure gauge

Electronics and gauges:
-AEM EMS computer
-Greddy 60mm EGT gauge
-Autometer 30psi boost gauge
-VDO oil pressure gauge
-HKS turbo timer
-JDM EG6 gauge cluster
-MSD 6-BTM
-Blaster SS coil

Interior:
-97 Del sol seats blk/blk
-Honda audio accesory center console
-real carbon fiber gauge plate
-Razo baseball shift ****

The car made 528 hp and 363 tq at the wheels. Has ran 11.88 @ 126 on drag radials and pump gas on low boost.



Modified by Slow-R at 7:16 PM 5/30/2003
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (EAZY)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EAZY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just wondering how much hp's and tq's is it gonna take to make a 99 si to do 12sec passes? is it possible with my setup

my set up--
ls/vtec,
B18A block
stock B18A LS rods shot peenied
stock B18A pistons
Arp rod bolts
B16 head bolts
stock 93 B16A SiR2 head
stock vavletrain
comectics boost head gasket
STR block guard
GSR oil pump, water pump and timing belt

STR feul rail
SX Performance regulator

also got nuespeed springs
skunk2 cambers
Nitto 555R drag on Si wheels
Y21 LSD in a 99 si tranny

waiting to get a hondata to put my drag 3 kit on with Greddy type 24 IC and 440 RC injectors{hondata ain't cheap for obd2 cars}
to control boost i got a Apexi AVC-R
i am prolly going to get it tuned at RaVer Motorsport in Visalia

how much boost should i shoot for when i got to get it tuned?


Modified by EAZY at 6:16 AM 5/30/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>as far as all motor goes, its ganna need alot more than this... or an overall weight of 1600 lbs
much higher compression and bigger cams is a start. with the turbo... no prob
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (EAZY)

lol too much money
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (EAZY)

13:0:1 compression w/200 shot of orange juice
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (DaBuccaneerFan2)

how many times did you blow up your motor?
unless it's BUILT...

go on a diet and get some nice set of cams(better valvetrain, pistons, PnP, TB, IM, etc, etc...)
and lotta powa w/no traction =

good luck
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (DaBuccaneerFan2)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaBuccaneerFan2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">13:0:1 compression w/200 shot of orange juice </TD></TR></TABLE>'

LMFAO, he said passES. With this setup I believe one pass is all you would be getting.
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (Slow-R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slow-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is an example of a car running 11's and capable of much more.

Here is a link to his 11/sec 1/4 Mile Run:
http://www.jcarsofindiana.com/...n.wmv





INFO IS AS FOLLOWS:

-93 Civic DX

Chassis:
-Ford Grabber Blue paint
-Amber corner lights
-Rota Sub Zero 15" wheels
-Kuhmo (R) Michelin (F) 205/50/15 tires
-Jamex struts
-Ground Control coilovers
-Skunk 2 upper control arms
-Competition Engeneering traction system
-ARP extended lug studs
-90 Integra rear disc brakes
-91 Civic LX 15/16 master cylinder

Drivetrain:
-96 USDM B18C1 swap
-Golden Eagle sleeves
-JE 9:1 .020 overbore pistons
-Eagle H-beam rods
-ARP head studs
-Crower dual valvesprings
-Crower Titanium retainers
-mild port work
-new oil pump, bearings, gaskets, ect.
-JG/Edelbrock intake manifold, polished
-Delphi injectors
-BJ's fuel rail
-BBK 70mm throttle body
-Indy Race Cores Radiator w/Spal fan
-Clutchmasters Twin Disc clutch kevlar/kevlar
-Clutchmasters flywheel made by Fidanza
-Accel plug wires

Turbo system:
-Turbonetics T-61 turbo w/ polished housing
-SFP race manifold
-Tial 40mm wastegate
-Tial blow off valve
-manual boost controller
-3" downpipe and upper intercooler pipe
-2.5" lower intercooler pipe
-Indy Race Cores intercooler
-3" Exhaust with Apex'i N1 muffler

Fuel System:
-Triangle Engeneering 10 gal. cell w/ sending unit
-Aeromotive 1000hp pump
-Aeromotive billet uluminum filter
-Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
-Aeromotive pump voltage regulator
-Goodridge lines and fittings
-B&M fuel pressure gauge

Electronics and gauges:
-AEM EMS computer
-Greddy 60mm EGT gauge
-Autometer 30psi boost gauge
-VDO oil pressure gauge
-HKS turbo timer
-JDM EG6 gauge cluster
-MSD 6-BTM
-Blaster SS coil

Interior:
-97 Del sol seats blk/blk
-Honda audio accesory center console
-real carbon fiber gauge plate
-Razo baseball shift ****

The car made 528 hp and 363 tq at the wheels. Has ran 11.88 @ 126 on drag radials and pump gas on low boost.

Modified by Slow-R at 7:16 PM 5/30/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>

how low boost?
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (Sepulcher)

8 Pds.
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (Slow-R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slow-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">8 Pds.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you mean 8 lbs.?
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (Slow-R)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slow-R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is an example of a car running 11's and capable of much more.

Here is a link to his 11/sec 1/4 Mile Run:
http://www.jcarsofindiana.com/...n.wmv





INFO IS AS FOLLOWS:

-93 Civic DX

Chassis:
-Ford Grabber Blue paint
-Amber corner lights
-Rota Sub Zero 15" wheels
-Kuhmo (R) Michelin (F) 205/50/15 tires
-Jamex struts
-Ground Control coilovers
-Skunk 2 upper control arms
-Competition Engeneering traction system
-ARP extended lug studs
-90 Integra rear disc brakes
-91 Civic LX 15/16 master cylinder

Drivetrain:
-96 USDM B18C1 swap
-Golden Eagle sleeves
-JE 9:1 .020 overbore pistons
-Eagle H-beam rods
-ARP head studs
-Crower dual valvesprings
-Crower Titanium retainers
-mild port work
-new oil pump, bearings, gaskets, ect.
-JG/Edelbrock intake manifold, polished
-Delphi injectors
-BJ's fuel rail
-BBK 70mm throttle body
-Indy Race Cores Radiator w/Spal fan
-Clutchmasters Twin Disc clutch kevlar/kevlar
-Clutchmasters flywheel made by Fidanza
-Accel plug wires

Turbo system:
-Turbonetics T-61 turbo w/ polished housing
-SFP race manifold
-Tial 40mm wastegate
-Tial blow off valve
-manual boost controller
-3" downpipe and upper intercooler pipe
-2.5" lower intercooler pipe
-Indy Race Cores intercooler
-3" Exhaust with Apex'i N1 muffler

Fuel System:
-Triangle Engeneering 10 gal. cell w/ sending unit
-Aeromotive 1000hp pump
-Aeromotive billet uluminum filter
-Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
-Aeromotive pump voltage regulator
-Goodridge lines and fittings
-B&M fuel pressure gauge

Electronics and gauges:
-AEM EMS computer
-Greddy 60mm EGT gauge
-Autometer 30psi boost gauge
-VDO oil pressure gauge
-HKS turbo timer
-JDM EG6 gauge cluster
-MSD 6-BTM
-Blaster SS coil

Interior:
-97 Del sol seats blk/blk
-Honda audio accesory center console
-real carbon fiber gauge plate
-Razo baseball shift ****

The car made 528 hp and 363 tq at the wheels. Has ran 11.88 @ 126 on drag radials and pump gas on low boost.

Modified by Slow-R at 7:16 PM 5/30/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>

This guy ran 11's on STREET Tires....... on slicks it would be in the 9's.... this setup is all you will ever need.
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (boostedcivicsir)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">230 WHP put me 107mph in the 1/4. almost 80 in the 1/8th. traction shoulda put the car mid low 12's. that was 6 psi on a 9:1 engine. and that was also full audio in the trunk.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a stock itr 98spec in my 95 si
i hit 80.08 in the 1/8, but 98 in 1/4
4.7 fd

all at a crapy 14.1
bad 60'ers
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (yayaRl337)

EASY the b18a with CTR's will be in the ball park of 12.1 to 12.5 depending on head gasket and milling

with mines its prolly gonna be around 12.3 or 12.4(my head is milled).... running 12.0 CR is still safe on pump gas...the guys on clubsi.com\naForum all do it...tunning is key!

if ctr's are too hihg of a compression for you try the jdm ITR pistons... then get some skunk 2 stage II's with it... agressive cams are the way to go with all motor cars... if not skunk's get some cams that are just as aggressive.

here is a link to a cam guide-clubsi.com\na forum
http://forums.clubsi.com/showf...art=1
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (DOHCtorTHRUST)

b00st, slicks, and a good driver.
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (EAZY)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EAZY &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just wondering how much hp's and tq's is it gonna take to make a 99 si to do 12sec passes? is it possible with my setup

my set up--
ls/vtec,
B18A block
stock B18A LS rods shot peenied
stock B18A pistons
Arp rod bolts
B16 head bolts
stock 93 B16A SiR2 head
stock vavletrain
comectics boost head gasket
STR block guard
GSR oil pump, water pump and timing belt

Modified by EAZY at 6:16 AM 5/30/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>
quick ls/vtec question i thought b16 head bolts were too short and you needed gsr headbolts, i am building an ls/vtec and have passed up on brand new b16 arp headbolts beacause i was told they were too short and have been waiting for gsr headbolts. so do b16 headbolts fit?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by akumaracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> so do b16 headbolts fit?</TD></TR></TABLE>

my fitted, i use the same head bolts that was of the b16, but be carefull when you torque down the b16 head bolts, i broke one ofthe thread on the block by accidently over torqueing it and had to put heli coil in it, i guess the thread broke because the b16 head bolts is shorter
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (EAZY)

the b16a head studs ARE too short.. if compared side by side.. its about 7mm shorter then the b18c....
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Default Re: what does it take to put a 99 si in 12s (DOHCtorTHRUST)

its possilbe w/ a 150 shot of NAWS
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yup all u need is a dhr crate motor b18c5 210 whp with stock bottom end damnnnnn
and then spray 75 shot
u will be 12 so easy
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