egproject

Just bought this brand new CTR intake cam from a local shop.. can someone verify if it's the real deal from the pics?

Also, I'm currently running a 2nd gen JDM b16a Intake - DAC...Header - Solo...Exhaust - Hiflow cat w/twin loop 2 1/4" piping..

Does anyone know what gains I should expect? Other than the CTR cam, my valvetrain is completely stock. (tuition fees are killing my $$$!!)

I did a search.. couldn't find anything

Unsung

P73 in the part no.... I thought that was ITR?

EDIT: Searched in google, came up as a 2000 ITR Intake cam by the part no.

http://www.lightningmotorsport...a.htm

STIBungy

I thought '00 ITR cams are the same as CTR cams?

Unsung

Part no. is different. I believe theres still 3 deg more duration on the CTR intake cam, I could be wrong though.

built562

ctr and itr intake cams are different. the ctr has a higher lift.

the exhaust cams are the same though

so it looks like you got a usdm itr intake cam.
hope you didnt pay for a ctr cam, they are usually a little more in price

STIBungy

I didnt gain much with CTR cams in my GSR. If any. But then again, I dont really have much mods. Just K&N filter and Apexi RS catback.


Modified by B18CBungy at 4:32 PM 9/2/2003

egproject

well i heard that 00-01 ITR cams are the exact same as CTR cams... i also looked up the part number and it does show up as a 00-01 ITR intake cam..

as long as the duration/lift specs are the same as CTR's.. i'm a happy camper..





Modified by egproject at 11:39 PM 9/2/2003

Fred n J_v2.0

yeah 00-01 itr cams are the same as ctr cams. even still, itr cams are still a good upgrade.

by the part number, its prob an ITR. to be certain, look by the distributor side, if it's ITR: it will have one grooved ring. If it's CTR: it will have two grooved rings.

rodrez.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by egproject &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i heard that 00-01 ITR cams are the exact same as CTR cams... i also looked up the part number and it does show up as a 00-01 ITR intake cam..

as long as the duration/lift specs are the same as CTR's.. i'm a happy camper..
Modified by egproject at 11:39 PM 9/2/2003</TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct, the newer ITR intake cam is the same as the CTR.

rockers

isn't there a website that shows pics of the grooves on the end of the cams to help verify which is which?

here it is, i hope it works http://ff-squad.com/VtecCams.htm

acydphryck

for the intake CTR cam, you should have 2 rings on the distributor side...can't remember who has pics but it's in the archived files on honda-tech.com. do a search inside the archived files...

rodrez.

built562

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rodrez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Correct, the newer ITR intake cam is the same as the CTR. </TD></TR></TABLE>

almost but not quite. i dont have the exact specs but this is what i found searching the web.

"Note:
• CTR & ITR cams both share the same exhaust cam.
• The 00/01 US ITR intake cam is a new addition. The markings are almost that of a CTR intake cam. I've checked the VTEC lobe and it's oh-so very close to the spec of a CTR cam. This cam has it's own spec, meaning it's not like like the 96-99 US ITR int. cam. This 00/01 cam will produce a tad bit more power than previous years...
• Honda of Japan is actually the maker of Spoon cams. Spoon has their own spec, which they give to Honda, and Honda manufactures them. That is why a Spoon cam material looks exactly like factory OEM Honda cam! This is unique, because you won't see TODA/JUN/ or even Mugen cams that look like OEM material.
• Toda cams are totally different than any of the 'R' cams. Notice how the secondary lobe has almost the same lift as the VTEC (middle) lobe...nutty! Once dynoed and dialed in, spec-B's produces some real good mid-range power. According to one of my friends, it makes a 1.6L engine almost feel like a 1.8L engine..."

this was taken from
http://ff-squad.com/VtecCams.htm

so they are close but not the same

also here are specs of other cams incase people want to check it out
http://www.hondaswap.com/refer...=cams

Mr Hammond

CTR and ITR exhaust cams are one in the same. Same part number. CTR and itr intake cams are not. Differnt part numbers. Exact same lift, but CTR does infact have 3 more degrees of duration @ 243 @ 1mm vs 240 @ 1mm.

976

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CTR and ITR exhaust cams are one in the same. Same part number. CTR and itr intake cams are not. Differnt part numbers. Exact same lift, but CTR does infact have 3 more degrees of duration @ 243 @ 1mm vs 240 @ 1mm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good info, thanks!

92redgsr

I just bought 2001 itr intake and exhaust cams. Part #14111-p73-jo1 is the ITR intake cam part #. You have an ITR cam but it is the same specs as the CTR intake cam.

Mr Hammond

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92redgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just bought 2001 itr intake and exhaust cams. Part #14111-p73-jo1 is the ITR intake cam part #. You have an ITR cam but it is the same specs as the CTR intake cam.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You my friend have been misinformed. Untill you measure the specs yourself please do not misinform people. Thanks.

BERT-O

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You my friend have been misinformed. Untill you measure the specs yourself please do not misinform people. Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL, Its the internet, people will believe everything. Believe me or not, the part number for a CTR intake cam is

14111-PCT-000


EX cam is the same, any-year,

-Bert

Mr Hammond

I was unaware of how many people think they are the same thing. Granted the difference is small, but still differnt. This is probably one of the most misinformed bit of info on Honda-Tech. I swear I post once a day about it.

rodrez.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You my friend have been misinformed. Untill you measure the specs yourself please do not misinform people. Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Technically, they are in fact slightly different, but you will not see a difference in hp/tq between the two. I, as well as many people have always referred to them as the same, because the specs are almost identical.

Airbag Club

check this link...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=552345

Mr Hammond

Actually you will see a differnces. It may be minute and 1whp or less, but it does exsist. They are differnt parts and differnt part numbers. They are differnt. Black and Yellow ITR's are the same except for a paint code too....

Spade

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr Milano &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CTR and ITR exhaust cams are one in the same. Same part number. CTR and itr intake cams are not. Differnt part numbers. Exact same lift, but CTR does infact have 3 more degrees of duration @ 243 @ 1mm vs 240 @ 1mm.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<FONT SIZE="3">Depends on the year! The 00 and 01 ITR intake Cam was infact per Honda, upgraded to a 243 degree intake cam.</FONT>

Courtesy of Katman.

ludedeg

spade is correct,

Mr Hammond

:sigh: It's hopeless. Just because the cam has 2 rings doesn't mean anything.