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Old 03-24-2010, 01:21 PM
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Default Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Car is a 1999 Honda Civic HX Coupe.

Basically all the rear lights are out when I try to turn them on.

Bulbs - Work when brake pedal is pressed, meaning when I brake the lights do come on.

Fuse - The fuse is new, but I tested it for any power, and there's no power going from I guess the switch on the steering wheel that turns the lights on to the fuse box.

Any help is appreciated, please and thank you.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

anyone? bump
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

How are you testing it?? not to sound like you have no clue, but....... Place the meter in DC and put the black lead on a common ground and the red lead on the back side of the fuse(metal). then turn the parkin lights on. try both sides of the fuse.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

I'm not exactly an expert on circuits or anything but correct me if I'm wrong.

You turn the headlamp switch next to the steering wheel.
That sends a signal to the battery to send power to the lights.
The power then runs through the fuse box and to the lights in the back.

I tested the fuse, while plugged in for continuity, simply because I don't have a multimeter, but I don't think it mattered, since other functioning accessories received a charge.

My theory in this case is that there's either a bad component in the headlamp switch, the one mounted on the left side of the steering wheel, or there's possibly a bad ground somewhere.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

I got a new combination switch and it worked perfectly for about 2 or 3 days and then the tail lights stopped working but the turn signals still work...
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Do the cluster lights work? If so, recheck fuse 32 under the dash. It may be blown.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

The turn signals wouldn't work if no.32 was blown. And the cluster lights run under Fuse 30 I believe not number 32.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Originally Posted by hiredassasin19
The turn signals wouldn't work if no.32 was blown.

Incorrect. The turn signals are protected by fuse 12.

And the cluster lights run under Fuse 30 I believe not number 32.

Correct. But if the cluster lights work, then the combination switch is fine and is providing power. Again, check fuse 32 with a test light.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Ok so if the fuse no.32 keeps blowing the issue is from a bad relay I'm guessing?
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

There's no relay in the fuse 32 circuit. My guess would be a short in one of the bulb receptacles.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
There's no relay in the fuse 32 circuit. My guess would be a short in one of the bulb receptacles.
Well wouldn't that cause the bulb not to function at all, when I brake they still light up. And that would also mean all of the receptacles are bad which seems really unlikely.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

It CAN still be one bad bulb socket. One bulb has two filaments, one the brake and the other for the taillight. One bad receptacle can have a short in one circuit but not the other. In your case, the brake circuit part of the receptacle would be fine. Anyway, do as you see fit, but if you don't understand the circuits, then you should be more receptive to advice.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

I understand where you're coming from and I get your advice, I'm just saying wouldn't it be odd for all four receptacles to have gone bad all at once, especially since it wasn't working at all, I switched the combination switch and boom all of a sudden it's working and again two days later it stops.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

You don't need to have four bad sockets, only one. One short in one socket would blow fuse 32. Then none of the light bulbs on the circuit would work.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Cool cool, how would I go about testing it then, a test light?
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Start by inspecting each socket for visual damage, such as cracks, burning, or corrosion. Also similarly inspect the rear wires of the socket.

Have you actually verified that fuse 32 is blowing?
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

It kept blowing before I changed the combination switch. When I changed the switch it stopped doing this, but I have not checked they fuse after it stopped working today. I will be checking it tomorrow morning when it's bright outside.

I'll go ahead and inspect each socket tomorrow too, I really appreciate the help and your patience with me, lol.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Originally Posted by hiredassasin19
It kept blowing before I changed the combination switch. When I changed the switch it stopped doing this, but I have not checked they fuse after it stopped working today. I will be checking it tomorrow morning when it's bright outside.

I'll go ahead and inspect each socket tomorrow too, I really appreciate the help and your patience with me, lol.
Verify that fuse 32 has blown again before inspecting the sockets.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Fuse 32 is blown. I began checking the sockets and one the bulbs has the filament broken, I inspected the socket and it looks fine, anyway to test it?
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

Does removal of the bad bulb prevent fuse 32 from blowing. If not, inspect the remainder of the taillight/brake light, front and rear parking light, and license plate light sockets.
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Default Re: Tail Lights, Turn Signals and License Plate Light are out.

I removed the bad bulb and replaced the fuse, and it blew it again, I will go ahead and check the rest of the sockets.
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