so i'm going to be doing a frankenstein d16 build....
10-18-2005, 05:15 PM
#1
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so i'm going to be doing a frankenstein d16 build....
so i'm gonna be building this VTEC-E project and these are the parts that i'm going to be using: Starting from the top here
d16z6 bare throttle body
d16y8 intake manifold
d15b7 fuel rail/injectors
d16y5 cylinder head
d15z1 valve cover (VTEC-E WOOHOO!)
d16z6 vtec solenoid
d16z6 distributor
d16y8 2 layer head gasket
d16a6 block/pistons/oilpump/throttlebody
b18b rods
d16y7 tranny case
d16z6 mainshaft, countershaft, differential, final drive
JDM ZC 3rd gear (1.346)
d15b8 3rd gear as 4th gear (1.066)
d16y7 5th gear (0.702)
d15b8 wiring harness (modified for o2 sensor and vtec
d15b7 p06 chipped ecu.
as i was thinking about my build, i realized that I am going to be using parts from just about every single d-series motor (excluding the d17 junk) i know that there's a d15a2 or d15b2 or whatever it is, but what could i take from that to use in my build? I'd like to have parts from every sohc d-series from 88-00 if possible.
i don't wanna hear any junk from any of you about why i'm using the d16y5 head, it's got a more aggressive cam than the y8 and it's got roller rockers. I am trying to build a very efficient motor here that gets good gas mileage and also has performance.
right now i'm looking at my gears ending at the following MPH. redline at 7200, 205/50/15s
1st 36mph
2nd 61mph
3rd 86mph
4th 109mph
5th 166mph
80mph, in 5th gear ~ 3450rpm.
i'm excited
d16z6 bare throttle body
d16y8 intake manifold
d15b7 fuel rail/injectors
d16y5 cylinder head
d15z1 valve cover (VTEC-E WOOHOO!)
d16z6 vtec solenoid
d16z6 distributor
d16y8 2 layer head gasket
d16a6 block/pistons/oilpump/throttlebody
b18b rods
d16y7 tranny case
d16z6 mainshaft, countershaft, differential, final drive
JDM ZC 3rd gear (1.346)
d15b8 3rd gear as 4th gear (1.066)
d16y7 5th gear (0.702)
d15b8 wiring harness (modified for o2 sensor and vtec
d15b7 p06 chipped ecu.
as i was thinking about my build, i realized that I am going to be using parts from just about every single d-series motor (excluding the d17 junk) i know that there's a d15a2 or d15b2 or whatever it is, but what could i take from that to use in my build? I'd like to have parts from every sohc d-series from 88-00 if possible.
i don't wanna hear any junk from any of you about why i'm using the d16y5 head, it's got a more aggressive cam than the y8 and it's got roller rockers. I am trying to build a very efficient motor here that gets good gas mileage and also has performance.
right now i'm looking at my gears ending at the following MPH. redline at 7200, 205/50/15s
1st 36mph
2nd 61mph
3rd 86mph
4th 109mph
5th 166mph
80mph, in 5th gear ~ 3450rpm.
i'm excited
10-18-2005, 06:20 PM
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Re: (93egsedan)
well it's actually ~4440 with 205/50/15s
but remember, a b16 stroke is VERY short, 77mm.
anyways, what can i use off of a d15b2?
but remember, a b16 stroke is VERY short, 77mm.
anyways, what can i use off of a d15b2?
10-18-2005, 07:26 PM
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Re: (Gordon Liddy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Gordon Liddy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
anyways, what can i use off of a d15b2?</TD></TR></TABLE>
D15b1/b2 and d16a6 have the same exact head. Everything is the same except the cam. But you should really use the b2 injectors
anyways, what can i use off of a d15b2?</TD></TR></TABLE>
D15b1/b2 and d16a6 have the same exact head. Everything is the same except the cam. But you should really use the b2 injectors
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10-18-2005, 08:17 PM
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Re: (o5mar1)
shut up. I am not saying that i am going to go that fast by any means. All i am saying is that 7200prm with those gear ratios, the MPH would be _______
10-19-2005, 03:39 AM
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Re: (Jonathan_ED3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but why?
What's the use in mixing and matching so many parts? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i had a d15b8 swap in my car after my turbo b18c1 swap got stolen
then i put a d15b7 head on that block
now i want a vtec-e swap, but i am going with the y5 head instead of the z1 head. Because it has a more aggressive cam.
d16y8 intake manifold, cause it's the best
d15z1 valve cover cause i want it to say VTEC-E cause i can't wait to smoke y8's and z6's and pop the hood and be like "YEAH, I GOT VTEC-E FOOL!"
d16a6 block cause i can pick it up for cheap locally.
as far as other things, mostly cause it's what i was able to find at first. like the d16z6 throttlebody. I have a tiny *** cx throttlebody right now, need a stock civic one, and i only paid 17 shipped for the z6 throttle body, etc.
as far as the tranny goes, back when i had my 2000 si, i fell in love with the tranny. I LOVE close ratio transmissions, so with the ex/si tranny with zc 3-4 gears, i'll have close ratio 1-4 gears, but then i'll use the 0.702 5th gear cause i want good gas mileage. d16y7 tranny case, cause i have a d16y7 tranny on my car now and i'll use it cause of the steel shifter forks.
i dunno, it wasn't intentional for me to have a frankenstien build, i just wanted a d16y5 but realized that a lot of the parts on it weren't as good as other d16 parts.
What's the use in mixing and matching so many parts? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i had a d15b8 swap in my car after my turbo b18c1 swap got stolen
then i put a d15b7 head on that block
now i want a vtec-e swap, but i am going with the y5 head instead of the z1 head. Because it has a more aggressive cam.
d16y8 intake manifold, cause it's the best
d15z1 valve cover cause i want it to say VTEC-E cause i can't wait to smoke y8's and z6's and pop the hood and be like "YEAH, I GOT VTEC-E FOOL!"
d16a6 block cause i can pick it up for cheap locally.
as far as other things, mostly cause it's what i was able to find at first. like the d16z6 throttlebody. I have a tiny *** cx throttlebody right now, need a stock civic one, and i only paid 17 shipped for the z6 throttle body, etc.
as far as the tranny goes, back when i had my 2000 si, i fell in love with the tranny. I LOVE close ratio transmissions, so with the ex/si tranny with zc 3-4 gears, i'll have close ratio 1-4 gears, but then i'll use the 0.702 5th gear cause i want good gas mileage. d16y7 tranny case, cause i have a d16y7 tranny on my car now and i'll use it cause of the steel shifter forks.
i dunno, it wasn't intentional for me to have a frankenstien build, i just wanted a d16y5 but realized that a lot of the parts on it weren't as good as other d16 parts.
10-19-2005, 07:33 AM
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Now I understand.
Are you sure all of these parts are going to work together, and run the engine right?
i have a friend that was trying to piece together a z1 with other D series parts and found out that some of the tolerances/resulting compression ratios and sensors etc needed to run it were not compatible with other D series parts.
Just something to watch out for.
Are you sure all of these parts are going to work together, and run the engine right?
i have a friend that was trying to piece together a z1 with other D series parts and found out that some of the tolerances/resulting compression ratios and sensors etc needed to run it were not compatible with other D series parts.
Just something to watch out for.
10-19-2005, 01:31 PM
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Re: (Jonathan_ED3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jonathan_ED3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now I understand.
Are you sure all of these parts are going to work together, and run the engine right?
i have a friend that was trying to piece together a z1 with other D series parts and found out that some of the tolerances/resulting compression ratios and sensors etc needed to run it were not compatible with other D series parts.
Just something to watch out for. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, i've done my homework on pretty much all of this, I calculated that my compression is going to be somewhere between 10 and 11, Although i did think about getting a set of d16a1 pistons to bump up the compression, however within the next year or so i plan on boosting this motor
the thing that's going to suck the most is finding a DOHC ZC tranny, cause the only thing i really need out of it is that 3rd gear.
the beauty of this project is that it's going to cost me somewhere near 900 dollars for the entire swap. And that's not just some swap that has been used for X amount of miles, this thing is going to be fully rebuilt.
fortunately, i was able to find a z6 tranny with a busted case and i picked it up for less than 100. I also have my old d15b8 tranny that's been sitting in my garage ever since i swapped out that tranny for free d16y7 tranny that a friend gave me. this is how i'm going to do the custom tranny for relatively cheap.
d16y5 head is something that most honda "tuners" try to avoid, however i've done more research and i've realized that stock vs stock, the d16y5 head is much better than the d16y8 head and the d16z6 head. The lobes on the cam are more aggressive, and it has roller rockers. Yet another part that i picked up for dirt cheap.
I know that it's kinda odd for me to openly list how much i paid for my parts, however most of this is dirt cheap compared to other swaps that people are doing these days. IMO this swap is going to be the most bang for my buck out of everything else available. Fully rebuilt D16 longblock AND transmission with all the parts that I want for less than 1000 dollars. That has the potential to get over 50mpg in my 94 CX hatch. Can anyone do this with a b-series?
Are you sure all of these parts are going to work together, and run the engine right?
i have a friend that was trying to piece together a z1 with other D series parts and found out that some of the tolerances/resulting compression ratios and sensors etc needed to run it were not compatible with other D series parts.
Just something to watch out for. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, i've done my homework on pretty much all of this, I calculated that my compression is going to be somewhere between 10 and 11, Although i did think about getting a set of d16a1 pistons to bump up the compression, however within the next year or so i plan on boosting this motor
the thing that's going to suck the most is finding a DOHC ZC tranny, cause the only thing i really need out of it is that 3rd gear.
the beauty of this project is that it's going to cost me somewhere near 900 dollars for the entire swap. And that's not just some swap that has been used for X amount of miles, this thing is going to be fully rebuilt.
fortunately, i was able to find a z6 tranny with a busted case and i picked it up for less than 100. I also have my old d15b8 tranny that's been sitting in my garage ever since i swapped out that tranny for free d16y7 tranny that a friend gave me. this is how i'm going to do the custom tranny for relatively cheap.
d16y5 head is something that most honda "tuners" try to avoid, however i've done more research and i've realized that stock vs stock, the d16y5 head is much better than the d16y8 head and the d16z6 head. The lobes on the cam are more aggressive, and it has roller rockers. Yet another part that i picked up for dirt cheap.
I know that it's kinda odd for me to openly list how much i paid for my parts, however most of this is dirt cheap compared to other swaps that people are doing these days. IMO this swap is going to be the most bang for my buck out of everything else available. Fully rebuilt D16 longblock AND transmission with all the parts that I want for less than 1000 dollars. That has the potential to get over 50mpg in my 94 CX hatch. Can anyone do this with a b-series?
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