Short throw shifter problem
03-28-2005, 07:12 AM
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Short throw shifter problem
HI I have a 1999 Civic Em1 and I recently purchased a short shifter for it. My problem is after installation I am running into clearance issues between my shifter rod and exhaust, which is making the shifter difficult to shift. Right now I have a Piece of wood between my resonator and frame to make clearance if any one has any ideas on how I could solve this issue it would be helpful.
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03-28-2005, 08:07 AM
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Re: Short throw shifter problem (civic 2ner)
Hmmm. I personally think that you should put your stock shifter back in because it really doesnt really help. I mean yes it does shorten the distance of your shift but it doesnt shorten it enough to be affective IMHO.
As for your problem, is your exhaust stock or aftermarket?
As for your problem, is your exhaust stock or aftermarket?
03-28-2005, 08:22 AM
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Re: Short throw shifter problem (sidesi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sidesi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i disagree</TD></TR></TABLE>
And many people will, when i had my short shifter in my 4dr it would grind 2nd gear everytime. i tried GM syncromesh trany fluid, didnt help. So i put my stock shifter back in and the grinding went away.
And many people will, when i had my short shifter in my 4dr it would grind 2nd gear everytime. i tried GM syncromesh trany fluid, didnt help. So i put my stock shifter back in and the grinding went away.
03-28-2005, 08:24 AM
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Re: Short throw shifter problem (sidesi)
Short throws are way better then short shifter because it gives you shorter shifts which is better for the track. Although if your an idiot, like many then youll just ruin your sycros.
You sure you installed it right? I see now way that it would drop the shifter assembly lower then stock, something has to be done wrong.
You sure you installed it right? I see now way that it would drop the shifter assembly lower then stock, something has to be done wrong.
03-28-2005, 08:28 AM
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Re: Short throw shifter problem (Luserkid)
I did an auto to manual swap, i guess its possible that i when i welded the mount it may not have been honda spec as far as location. Could have been my problem.
03-28-2005, 08:47 AM
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Re: Short throw shifter problem (Rainman13)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rainman13 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I personally think that you should put your stock shifter back in because it really doesnt really help. I mean yes it does shorten the distance of your shift but it doesnt shorten it enough to be affective IMHO.</TD></TR></TABLE>
After installing my b&m shifter I would NEVER go back to stock. The stock shifter felt like it was made of rubber.
After installing my b&m shifter I would NEVER go back to stock. The stock shifter felt like it was made of rubber.
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03-28-2005, 10:42 AM
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Re: Short throw shifter problem (Rainman13)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rainman13 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And many people will, when i had my short shifter in my 4dr it would grind 2nd gear everytime. i tried GM syncromesh trany fluid, didnt help. So i put my stock shifter back in and the grinding went away.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wtf?, this post had nothing to do with grinding problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i would say that you probably mounted it too low and now the linkage hits your exhaust. i'd say buy someones factory shifter on here for cheap$ and see if thats your problem.. WHICH SHORT SHIFTER DID YOU BUY????
And many people will, when i had my short shifter in my 4dr it would grind 2nd gear everytime. i tried GM syncromesh trany fluid, didnt help. So i put my stock shifter back in and the grinding went away.</TD></TR></TABLE>
wtf?, this post had nothing to do with grinding problems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i would say that you probably mounted it too low and now the linkage hits your exhaust. i'd say buy someones factory shifter on here for cheap$ and see if thats your problem.. WHICH SHORT SHIFTER DID YOU BUY????
03-28-2005, 10:45 AM
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check out my post in this thread:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1186433
cliff notes: buy cheap multi-length hanger from autozone or something and replace the exhaust hanger with that so it's still tight, but it sits lower....had the same problem and i also have the same car
if you want a pic i can post upon request
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1186433
cliff notes: buy cheap multi-length hanger from autozone or something and replace the exhaust hanger with that so it's still tight, but it sits lower....had the same problem and i also have the same car
if you want a pic i can post upon request
03-28-2005, 10:58 AM
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Re: Short throw shifter problem (Luserkid)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Luserkid »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You sure you installed it right? I see [no] way that it would drop the shifter assembly lower then stock, something has to be done wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>
it makes sense with a short shifter: essentially all that is different from the stock one is the placement of the ball joint on the shifter rod. Creating more distance between the ball joint and the connecting rod joint on the shifter rod will reduce the "throw" of each shift and create less room between the exhaust piping and that joint, thus it could hit the exhaust (which most do on the stock exhaust system of the em1). It's just about extra leverage. The synchro's in stock em1 transmissions are already f-ed by honda since they put a service bulletin out in 2000, but shift right and your transmission should be fine.
it makes sense with a short shifter: essentially all that is different from the stock one is the placement of the ball joint on the shifter rod. Creating more distance between the ball joint and the connecting rod joint on the shifter rod will reduce the "throw" of each shift and create less room between the exhaust piping and that joint, thus it could hit the exhaust (which most do on the stock exhaust system of the em1). It's just about extra leverage. The synchro's in stock em1 transmissions are already f-ed by honda since they put a service bulletin out in 2000, but shift right and your transmission should be fine.
03-28-2005, 02:06 PM
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Re: (civic 2ner)
I had No idea that honda had a service bulletin for the transmission on the em1. So i should be fine as long as i drive right then ?
thanks i was worried that i was screwing my syncos but i just have to drive right. thanks agian to everyone for the big help
thanks i was worried that i was screwing my syncos but i just have to drive right. thanks agian to everyone for the big help
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Re: (Sijray21)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sijray21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
cliff notes: buy cheap multi-length hanger from autozone or something and replace the exhaust hanger with that so it's still tight, but it sits lower....had the same problem and i also have the same car :</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with Sijray21, purchasing the multi length hangers would solve the interference issue. You could also try bending your exhaust hangers slightly, but may not get enough clearance that way. Hope this helps.
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http://www.twmperformance.com
cliff notes: buy cheap multi-length hanger from autozone or something and replace the exhaust hanger with that so it's still tight, but it sits lower....had the same problem and i also have the same car :</TD></TR></TABLE>
I agree with Sijray21, purchasing the multi length hangers would solve the interference issue. You could also try bending your exhaust hangers slightly, but may not get enough clearance that way. Hope this helps.
Kevin
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http://www.twmperformance.com
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