upi95civic

i have sent the last 2 hours looking for what i need and could not find

what i'm looking to install is my revhard turbo kit into my 99 civic Si and i want to install my DSM injectors, i have blue top 450cc injectors and that box out of a 89 honda civic.

my question is what will i need to control them, a Apexi vafc, a Apexi safc
and will just that box work i need to know cause soon i'm looking into doing the install saturday.

P.S. if someone could send me the link on how to wire them in a OBDII car that would be great thanks alot


Modified by upi95civic at 3:11 AM 10/7/2005

shamoo

The box should be a resistor box that allows it to work in our Hondas. DSM injectors operate a little differently electrically ( , sorry can't explain it any better).

You can use an S-AFC or a V-AFC to control it. The S stands for Super, and the V stands for Vtec. You only use the V-AFC if you have a Vtec motor and you also want to alter the Vtec crossover point.

You can also use some sort of engine management system, which can be a piggyback ECU or an entire standalone system.

Using the AFC to control it is slightly "ghetto" because you can't control timing with it. It's quite hard to adjust fuel/throttle position/rpm in all loads if you have no control of timing. Sometimes the car will run nicely, othertimes it won't. I always thought of the AFC as a temporary fix with turbo cars. With N/A cars, it's not as bad.

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Weird, you went forward in time!

upi95civic

so what i need is something like a greddy E-manage

shamoo

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That is one choice. Or AEM EMS, or Hondata, or Motec, or Haltec, or Uberdata, etc. Lots of them you can use.

upi95civic

maybe it will help if you i tell you what i have and what i want to do to my 99 Civic Si, i have a revhard turbo kit with a t304e turbo with a front mount intercooler, vortech blow off valve, high flow fuel pump, vortech FMU, dsm injectors, 88-91 resistor box, msd ingition, msd cap with a blaster 2 coil. maybe more i can't remember right now.

what i need to know is:
-what should i use to control the injectors, V-AFC, S-AFC, E-manage, E-manage Ultimate, or something else. I want to be able to control the the tuning with out spending a lot of money

-also could some one send me a link on how to wire the injectors in a OBDII car

Thanks

IheartHondas

trash the dsm injectors, soo many people have problems w/ them.... if u spent the money and time gettin the damn turbo kit then buy some real ones

and tuning is EVERYTHING, if theres one thing u dont wanna shortcut on its that!! dyno tune as soon as u have the money

upi95civic

so what kind of injectors should i get?

IheartHondas

find somebody sellin some RC injectors my buddy jus picked some up from a dude in town for like $100.... jus look out for a deal and search hard

upi95civic

i still think i want to use the dsm injectors could some one send me the link to wire them up in a OBDII civic si

Thanks