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Old 01-15-2011, 02:25 PM
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How bad is this? And can it be fixed fairly easy?

im worried :\

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yeh, you can make a patch panel for it, and what I would do is clean out all the rust with a 50 grit grinding disc clean all the edges, and make sure that you have clean metal either to weld to or use a panel bonding agent such as 8115 from 3m (which is just as strong as a weld) and cut out a pieces of metal using a cut off wheel tin snips and then glue it in to place and hold it down by either screwing it down to keep it tight placing something on top to make sure the glue holds. Wait 24 hours to let the glue cure completely and grind out the glue, put a coat of plastic over it sand it and re spray it, that should do the trick, good luck
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WOW!

holy shitty crash repair batman!

and yeah, you can fix it. break out the die grinder, torch, mig and order some more sheet steel.. or if you are into just drilling welds, the pieces are probably still available from honda. but i'd plan on it getting crazy.. that shock tower even in the right place?

but is it even worth it? if you can't do the work yourself.. it's probably not.
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Originally Posted by LOLYOUMAD
How bad is this? And can it be fixed fairly easy?
Very, and h3ll no!

Originally Posted by MonkeyMagic
holy shitty crash repair batman!
that shock tower even in the right place?

if you can't do the work yourself..
That is a hardcore DIY. The only way I could see anyone I know even touching that would be for a complete tear down and build scenario. Unless the rest of the car is completely sound and mint, I'm thinking not worth it because it looks like there's more wrong than just the rust damage.
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WOW!

holy shitty crash repair batman!

and yeah, you can fix it. break out the die grinder, torch, mig and order some more sheet steel.. or if you are into just drilling welds, the pieces are probably still available from honda. but i'd plan on it getting crazy.. that shock tower even in the right place?

but is it even worth it? if you can't do the work yourself.. it's probably not.
Exactly what I was thinking. The rust looks like its right on the seam just before the shock tower.

If that were my car I would part it out and chop it up. It could be good for a race shell when you chop the front end off lol.

How the hell did it get like that? Rust over time or did a battery explode?
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holy sh#t batman !!!!!!
Old 01-15-2011, 05:05 PM
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How the hell did it get like that? Rust over time or did a battery explode?
that'd be someone's or some sketchy body shop's attempt at patching up an otherwise smashed front end.

note the fender bolt's alignment and all the lumpy sloppy mig welding
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I've seen this a few times before. Its been smashed in the front and very poorly fixed, even in areas with heavy salt those shock towers never rust through (I know i'm in just about the worst spot for salt) That car is done unless you want to spend major time and/or money on it. Seeing as its an automatic purple EX coupe it just doesn't seem worth the time or money. I'd part it out or get another shell and transfer the EX stuff over.
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shitty welding and bad body work. its not really worth fixing at this point.....unless the rest of the car is in mint shape, then it would be worth finding a parts car and having it done right. after about 3000 dollars in labor your 2000 dollar car will be perfect!!!
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scrap it and part it out. or find a dx/cx/vx and transfer all of your ex stuff over to it. or find a mint si hatch and part the old one out.
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That looks pretty rough. I can't believe a shop would turn that out as a fix.
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Very, and h3ll no!



That is a hardcore DIY. The only way I could see anyone I know even touching that would be for a complete tear down and build scenario. Unless the rest of the car is completely sound and mint, I'm thinking not worth it because it looks like there's more wrong than just the rust damage.
actually it is very clean and that is the only issue with this car. there is no rust.



how much do you think if i took it to honda's auto body shop?
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hard to tell from the pic but it looks like the hood doesnt line up well with the bumper on the passenger side. is that the same side as the damage/rust hole? id say its a good bet that your car had some front end damage. car looks clean otherwise.
if it were me.....
id remove the engine, go to junk yard and cut a large section out that is needed. go to a body shop and have it put on the frame alignment jig.
make sure every thing is all good and have them weld in the replacement piece you cut from the yard. at that point you can have them finish it or spray bomb the bay flat black or something.
if you have the ability and resources id say go for it.
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Originally Posted by LOLYOUMAD
how much do you think if i took it to honda's auto body shop?
You'll be into the thousands. That's a seriously major job. If you really want to fix it cut a much larger section out of another 5th gen civic and weld it in with a mig welder + gas. Make sure you cut out all the old rusted metal and slag first.
Old 01-15-2011, 06:59 PM
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where are you located LOLYOUMAD?
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plasma cut it out or with a cutting wheel...and wire wheel all the rust thats left.. then look for an inner fender apron to weld back in...not to hard if youve got some good hands on skills
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i am located in WI,and is it atleast driveable for a few months?
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damn hahaha im in so cal...yea its ok..i would jus wire wheel it and get the rust all off ...and get a can of spray primer and spray it so the rust dosnt spread...espcially since ur back east and the snow and salt and sh#t
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do you think i could still get an alignment at a shop or will they deny me cause of this?
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they most likely wouldnt deny you an alignment but here in ny it would definitely fail a safety inspection.
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If the shock tower looks like that.. I'm sure the quarters are full of bondo from the purple to red repaint... maybe just sell it to someone and show them the repair.. its worth money as a car (I wouldn't part it) but man that's bad.. I wouldnt pour too much money and time into that chassis.
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Originally Posted by farfrumugen
they most likely wouldnt deny you an alignment but here in ny it would definitely fail a safety inspection.
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Yep, same thing over here, definitely wouldn't pass an MVI over here.

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If the shock tower looks like that.. I'm sure the quarters are full of bondo from the purple to red repaint...
Maybe, maybe not, even in heavily salted areas the only times i've ever seen shock towers rust like that were due to a poorly fixed front end collision.
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That's not your subframe, racing guys chop that part out. You need to cut back to solid metal, clean it all up and weld in new steel. This is assuming you don't have more serious issues with rust.
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Part it out and sell me your EJ1 parts
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