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H&R Cup Kit Install on 99 LX -- a few pics

 
Old 09-28-2004, 06:46 AM
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Default H&R Cup Kit Install on 99 LX -- a few pics

First off, a warning to any with this kit or installing this kit:

DO NOT USE THE LOWER SPRING PERCH IN THE FRONT

unless you know what to do with an insanely low car (i.e. rolling fenders, removing fenderliners and other body work). when we first installed the kit with the springs on the lower perch, it looked like it was bagged in the front and it rubbed and scraped and scratched, gouged up my tires. ugh. spent Sunday morning moving to the upper perch.

on to the install. Sorry it's not more well documented, but we were in a time crunch.

before:


rear LCA: I thought only Si and EX LCA's had holes for sway bars. That looks like a sway bar hole in my LX LCA. anybody know if there's a difference?


up on the lift with no suspension:


Zach workin' the spring compressor. very handy little tool!


Kit fully assembled (note ill-advised lower perch assembly on front (right)):


This is what we cut off the bumpstops:


after:


more after pics here.

an interesting note, to those wondering what kind of springs come with the Cup Kit: Zach just happened to have his set of H&R Sports there (for his DelSol) and we lined the fronts up for comparison (Cup Kit on left, Sports on right). They're not lined up in the pic, but they're almost exactly the same height, within a centimeter. And the Cup Kit springs have more coils, which act like a tender spring to keep it seated.


So I don't know if this helps the debate over what the hell springs are in a Cup Kit, or just brings up more questions. My theory is now, that the springs are made specifically for the kit as opposed to being H&R Race or Sport springs. And of course, that brings us no closer to knowing the rates...
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:12 PM
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Default Re: H&R Cup Kit Install on 99 LX -- a few pics (Barabus)

no one wants to see? lookie lookie!
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nice drop
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man the more i read about that kit the more i want to jump out of my seat and drive 3 miles and buy it

sucks living close to a performance shop and knowing everyone that works there
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same as my setup
Koni yellows and h&r sports
(Only I ride on the higher perches now)
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Default Re: H&R Cup Kit Install on 99 LX -- a few pics (Barabus)

I have this kit for my '95 hatch and I love it. No complaints.
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would you all recommend this setup to say... me?

i have a 92 dx sedan
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">same as my setup
Koni yellows and h&r sports
(Only I ride on the higher perches now)</TD></TR></TABLE>

See that's my point. Does anybody really know if it's Sports? the pic in my original post shows the Cup Kit spring next to a Sport. looks WAY different.
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As your picture pointed out (I did the same thing) the springs don't look the same, period. Whether the spring rate is the same at each compression range or not, but I doubt it. I don't see a progressive rate spring that looks different is going to exhibit the same properties as the sports.

Not to mention the label differences.

You might want to point out that those are both the front springs too "VA" being front on the Cup kit, and "F" the front on the sports.

I don't see a company going through effort to "hide" if they were running sports on it. The selling points for it are in the shock, not the spring.

I really like my cup kit. Cept my passenger side sits lower than my drivers side. I have no idea why. ('94 vx)

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project_mercy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The selling points for it are in the shock, not the spring.</TD></TR></TABLE>

..which, ironically, are made by a different company.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project_mercy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really like my cup kit. Cept my passenger side sits lower than my drivers side. I have no idea why. ('94 vx)</TD></TR></TABLE>

I initially had trouble getting the front forks all the way up to the notch on the bottom of the shock. If the forks were at different heights on each side, this may give you an uneven ride height, no?

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Barabus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I initially had trouble getting the front forks all the way up to the notch on the bottom of the shock. If the forks were at different heights on each side, this may give you an uneven ride height, no?
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It's both front and rear. that whole side of the car sits slightly lower.

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i dont think you are suppost to cut the bump stops
when i did mines i read the instrustions it said not to cut the bump stops...
but my kit was for the eg so who knos
also dont leave it on the lower perch ever!! i had it on there for a year the ride was total **** put it on the top one and leave it there.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hayabusa160 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think you are suppost to cut the bump stops
when i did mines i read the instrustions it said not to cut the bump stops...
but my kit was for the eg so who knos
also dont leave it on the lower perch ever!! i had it on there for a year the ride was total **** put it on the top one and leave it there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you are correct, on the H&R installment manual it'll tell you for Honda Civic and Acura Integra owners do not cut off your bumpstop... i have H&R SPrings and Tokico man they are great...

and for rear LCA for LX .. there isn't much differences, i have SI Sway bar for 99 LX and it fitted fine, also have the Spoon tie bar, which you can tell the differences.


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keep the rims, it looks dope, just maybe when you have time DIY gunmetal or black it out.. it'll look hella good, oh did you roll your fenders? i have 205/40/17 and i nver had any rubbing or anything...
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