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Old 11-21-2010, 04:30 PM
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im getting mixed reviews on how screwed i am at this point. sorry this is long but im trying to be as descriptive as possible.
i was driving home and about a quarter mile from home my crankshaft pulley bolt came loose and made all my belts come off. i coasted the rest of the way home and when i looked under the car, all my belts had come loose but were somehow still hanging by a thread. when i took off my crankshaft pulley, i saw that the woodruf key was gone. what i need to know is, how can i tell if i have to redo my timing? i tried searching and couldnt find it so if its as simple as a link id appreciate it. thanks.
also, the word "UP" that indicates tdc isnt where its supposed to be (the tops of the letters are pointed straight to the left) and the crankshaft sprocket is not aligned with the line thats on the engine. (the woodruff key opening is facing down towards the floor).
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What engine?

The timing is probably okay, but it's worth verifying.
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just put it back on and align it with where the key needs to be, and torque that bolt down alot! i put mine back on with an impact. im pretty positive that your timing is just fine if it was just the pulley that runs the alt/ps/ac
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sorry i forgot to post that. its the stock engine, d16y7.
thank you guys for the help. good news is always appreciated.
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Default Re: crankshaft/ timing belt question

It takes an extra 5 minutes to check the timing and another 5 to set it correctly...

Put the crank pulley back on, make sure the correct mark on the pulley is aimed at the mark on the lower timing cover, make sure the arrow on the cam gear is pointing up, if so, you're good to go. If not...loosen the tention and adjust the belt on the cam gear accordingly.

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If the woodruff key came out, theres nothing keeping the timing belt sprocket from staying where it should be on the crank. You need to make sure the timing is right because even one tooth either way will make the engine run poorly.
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yeah it was that pulley so hopefully i dont have to mess with the timing and just put everything back together.
i know that the belt didnt jump a tooth since the marks i made when i changed the belt are still where they were, so thats a good sign i hope.
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Default Re: crankshaft/ timing belt question

I'd be most worried about how the CRANK looks where it's machined for the woodruff key. If the crank pulley bolt worked it's way loose, then off, it's entirely possible that your crank keyway got all wallowed out.

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luckily it looks fine. a very small piece of the crank (the part that holds the key) is chipped but it will still hold the key.
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so since the part that holds the key is facing down and the part that says "UP" is not centered (like in the pictures), does that mean that i should put the crankshaft pulley back on and turn it to see if the tdc mark on the timing belt pulley is lined up and the "UP" mark is in place? if i understand this right, if the tdc marks on both pulleys line up correctly then my timing should be ok but if it doesnt line up then id have to redo my timing.
thanks for the pictures btw.
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thanks to everyone for the help! i got done today and the car runs. guess i wont have to miss thanksgiving dinner with the family
i did get a p1337 error code that says manufacturer control ignition system or misfire which ive read has to do with the crankshaft fluctuation sensor. thing is, i checked the one i had with an ohm meter and it read at like 2.5 ohms which is within the bounds it should be in. does anyone know why i might be getting this code?
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Have you checked the CKF wires? Is the CKF sensor unplugged?
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i checked the sensor right before i put it on with an ohmmeter and it was in the area that my haynes manual said it should be at so i thought it would be good to go but im still getting this problem. i heard from a friend that theres more ways to test it to find out whether its a short or something else but i havent had any luck finding anything about that yet.
ive checked all the wires that i can see and cleaned them up but they all look fine.
oh and im sure its plugged in. i unplugged and plugged it back in and made sure i heard it "click" together.
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Default Re: crankshaft/ timing belt question

there wasn't any play in your lower timing gear with the chip in the crankshaft? i worked on a car one time the chip was so server i could never set timing correct because it was slightly moving throwing the timing off alil.
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with ron's last post i found out the freakin sensor is bad so yeah gonna replace that soon. thanks alot guys i really appreciate all the help.
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