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Old 09-08-2009, 08:39 PM
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Icon6 CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

I have a 93 hatch with a b18a1 swap and the CEL was throwing me and it gave me MAP, TDC, and IAT.

Where do i go about to start fixing this? Would one of those causes my car to bog a little bit?

Also my speedomter is off. Sometimes, well most of the time it says my car is going 10 miles faster then what it is going, and it would sometimes jump back down to normal and then back up 10 faster than it is. But the CEL is not throwing me the VSS code. What could be the problem with that?

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no help? anyone?
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Default Re: CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

Check the sensor wires.

Bad speedo?
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Default Re: CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

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Check the sensor wires.
do you have a diagram or something that shows the location of those sensor wires? I have a some what idea but want to be sure.


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Bad speedo?

you mean bad speedo as in the cluster? so changing cluster might do the job im guessing then?
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do you have a diagram or something that shows the location of those sensor wires?

I would if the car has the original 93 hatch wire harnesses.

you mean bad speedo as in the cluster? so changing cluster might do the job im guessing then?

Possibly. Do the odometer and tripmeter work?
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Default Re: CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

im not quite sure on the harness, i got the car with the swap in it. i thought obd1 harness are all the same?

and the speedo? it works beside the tripmeter
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im not quite sure on the harness, i got the car with the swap in it. i thought obd1 harness are all the same?

I am not sure whether the stock sensor wires required any modification to accommodate the B18a1 sensors.

and the speedo? it works beside the tripmeter

Not sure what your answer was here?
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Default Re: CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

can i get the diagram of the hatch anyways just to see if they match up?

and the odometer works and the tripmeter doesnt..
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can i get the diagram of the hatch anyways just to see if they match up?

and the odometer works and the tripmeter doesnt..
If the odometer works, then the cluster is almost surely the problem.






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okay ill change the cluster out when i come across another one..

i have code 3, 8, 10.. so i guess the that is not the right diagram?
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Default Re: CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

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i have code 3, 8, 10.. so i guess the that is not the right diagram?
I circled in red the MAP, TDC, and IAT (TA) sensors in the diagram. The unlabeled one on the left is the TDC sensor.
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Default Re: CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

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I circled in red the MAP, TDC, and IAT (TA) sensors in the diagram. The unlabeled one on the left is the TDC sensor.

oh okay thanks.. imma check it out when i get to my car and get back to you.. at the mean time imma try to find the other diagram.. thanks again
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Default Re: CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

okay i got rid of one code which was the TDC.. my timing was advance so i got the timing gun and re timed the car.. i still got the MAP and IAT code.. could the just be bad sensors? would one of them two cause my car to bogg out? or can it just be bad fuel filter or injectors?
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Originally Posted by Hatchd Egg
okay i got rid of one code which was the TDC.. my timing was advance so i got the timing gun and re timed the car.. i still got the MAP and IAT code.. could the just be bad sensors? would one of them two cause my car to bogg out? or can it just be bad fuel filter or injectors?
Yes, those two codes, especially code 3, can make the engine run poorly. Do the wire colors connected to the MAP and IAT match those in the diagram I posted?
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Default Re: CEL was throwing me code 3, 8, and 10 where do i start to fix this?

yes they could cause the car to bog. Check your wiring for your iat if you are not sure what your looking for google image search honda iat it should make it obvious. Then check that one post on the plug has a good ground and the other has good continuity to the correct pin on the ecu ( search obd1 honda ecu pinout on google). If these are both good either your sensor is bad or it is possible that the plug is getting bad contact with the sensor, that happened to mine. There is a bench test for iat sensors basically you heat it up and test resistance at different temperatures. You can find charts online if you google thermister iat etc they aren't really easy to find though.

Map sensor do similar deal check for a good ground and continuity to the ecu. I have never had to mess with that much im not sure if it is a 2 pin or not. The map sensor is on your throttle body and usually it says map on it somewhere. You can google image that as well.

edit: i see ron got in a reply before me but maybe mine will help too
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