b20b cams in b18b= more power?
04-19-2007, 05:08 PM
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b20b cams in b18b= more power?
hello everyone i have a question my friend was telling me that b20 cams in a ls would give it more horsepower/torque beacause it has more lift than the b18b cams, is this true and if so is there any downfall to doing this?
04-19-2007, 05:14 PM
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Re: b20b cams in b18b= more power? (Car Tweaker)
Your name is far from the truth if you cant figure that one out. I would highly doubt it doing anything in performance. Just get a turbo kit.
04-19-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: b20b cams in b18b= more power? (Car Tweaker)
someone did man.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spock_rocker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no you will not see any gain, if you swap the b20b head.. yes, but cams.. no</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spock_rocker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no you will not see any gain, if you swap the b20b head.. yes, but cams.. no</TD></TR></TABLE>
04-19-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: b20b cams in b18b= more power? (spock_rocker)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spock_rocker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no you will not see any gain, if you swap the b20b head.. yes, but cams.. no</TD></TR></TABLE>
i just have to add, that just ANY b20b head wont be an upgrade, only the P8R head that comes from the high compression b20b is, these come off the JDM b20b engines with a knock sensor ONLY. ALL others are identical to the USDM pr4 or P75 head, besides the cams, which were intended to make more midrange torque, whereas the LS cams are intended for a higher peak torque (still not high, but higher than the CRV cams).
a better alternative would be to locate a USDM b20z, and swap the whole motor, not just the head.
i just have to add, that just ANY b20b head wont be an upgrade, only the P8R head that comes from the high compression b20b is, these come off the JDM b20b engines with a knock sensor ONLY. ALL others are identical to the USDM pr4 or P75 head, besides the cams, which were intended to make more midrange torque, whereas the LS cams are intended for a higher peak torque (still not high, but higher than the CRV cams).
a better alternative would be to locate a USDM b20z, and swap the whole motor, not just the head.
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04-19-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: b20b cams in b18b= more power? (schardbody)
well no if i swap a whole motor its going to be when i can afford a k, right now i have a ls as you know and i want to vtec it, but i was just asking about the b20 cams bcuz a friend offered them to me for 75 and said they have highe lift and will give the ls some more hp/tq thats why i was asking, i have a question tho im going to hijack my own thread haa, heres the sanario a stock gsr in a 92 hatch and a ls-vtec in the same body.. what one would win?
04-19-2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: b20b cams in b18b= more power? (Car Tweaker)
[QUOTE=Car Tweaker]well no if i swap a whole motor its going to be when i can afford a k, right now i have a ls as you know and i want to vtec it, but i was just asking about the b20 cams bcuz a friend offered them to me for 75 and said they have highe lift and will give the ls some more hp/tq thats why i was asking, i have a question tho im going to hijack my own thread haa, heres the sanario a stock gsr in a 92 hatch and a ls-vtec in the same body.. what one would win?[/QUOTE]
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1900308
Read where it says Bench Racing....not tolerated. Read the rules.
If you want VTEC, you're certainly not going to get it from installing some cams.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread/1900308
Read where it says Bench Racing....not tolerated. Read the rules.
If you want VTEC, you're certainly not going to get it from installing some cams.
04-19-2007, 07:22 PM
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anyhow, to answer your question, LS/vtec is supposed to be faster because you get the torque of the LS (longer stroke) and the revs of the vtec head, so theoretically its supposed to be faster, how much, depends on the driver, and situation, if at all.
also, PR4 head (b20b, b18b) complete go for about $100 max, so thats not a good deal for the cams even if they were an upgrade (which they arent).
also, PR4 head (b20b, b18b) complete go for about $100 max, so thats not a good deal for the cams even if they were an upgrade (which they arent).
04-19-2007, 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Car Tweaker »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thnank you for answering my question and know you dont get vtec from installing cams dont be a dick post the rules and enforce them if that makes you happy </TD></TR></TABLE>
Then dont try talking about that ****.
If you read your posts, you make absolutely no sense.
Then dont try talking about that ****.
If you read your posts, you make absolutely no sense.
04-19-2007, 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1995Civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Then dont try talking about that ****.
If you read your posts, you make absolutely no sense. </TD></TR></TABLE>
what are you talking about man??? he never said he wanted to change cams to add vtec.
PMS or something???
he was simply asking if infact B20b cams were an upgrade. then stated that he would rather save for a K swap than do a b20 swap, then asked which is faster a gsr or ls/vtec.
im not getting the problem here????
If you read your posts, you make absolutely no sense.
</TD></TR></TABLE>what are you talking about man??? he never said he wanted to change cams to add vtec.
PMS or something???
he was simply asking if infact B20b cams were an upgrade. then stated that he would rather save for a K swap than do a b20 swap, then asked which is faster a gsr or ls/vtec.
im not getting the problem here????
04-19-2007, 07:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what are you talking about man??? he never said he wanted to change cams to add vtec.
PMS or something???
he was simply asking if infact B20b cams were an upgrade. then stated that he would rather save for a K swap than do a b20 swap, then asked which is faster a gsr or ls/vtec.
im not getting the problem here????</TD></TR></TABLE>
He said he has an LS motor and he wants to vtec it? I dont understand what that had anything to do with the B20 cams? Completely irrelevant...
Well im terribly sorry...yea you got....PMS...riiight.
what are you talking about man??? he never said he wanted to change cams to add vtec.
PMS or something???
he was simply asking if infact B20b cams were an upgrade. then stated that he would rather save for a K swap than do a b20 swap, then asked which is faster a gsr or ls/vtec.
im not getting the problem here????</TD></TR></TABLE>
He said he has an LS motor and he wants to vtec it? I dont understand what that had anything to do with the B20 cams? Completely irrelevant...
Well im terribly sorry...yea you got....PMS...riiight.
04-19-2007, 08:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1995Civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He said he has an LS motor and he wants to vtec it? I dont understand what that had anything to do with the B20 cams? Completely irrelevant...
Well im terribly sorry...yea you got....PMS...riiight.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think you just misunderstood, he was saying he wants to do an ls/vtec, but was asking about the b20b cams cuz he thought it was a good deal and an upgrade. just one of those "should i do this for now" kind of things.
not like, can i add b20b cams for vtec.
Well im terribly sorry...yea you got....PMS...riiight.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think you just misunderstood, he was saying he wants to do an ls/vtec, but was asking about the b20b cams cuz he thought it was a good deal and an upgrade. just one of those "should i do this for now" kind of things.
not like, can i add b20b cams for vtec.
04-19-2007, 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i think you just misunderstood, he was saying he wants to do an ls/vtec, but was asking about the b20b cams cuz he thought it was a good deal and an upgrade. just one of those "should i do this for now" kind of things.
not like, can i add b20b cams for vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea, I got ya man...no hard feelings
I did misunderstand what he was trying to say. Thats why punctuation is a good thing when typing.
i think you just misunderstood, he was saying he wants to do an ls/vtec, but was asking about the b20b cams cuz he thought it was a good deal and an upgrade. just one of those "should i do this for now" kind of things.
not like, can i add b20b cams for vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yea, I got ya man...no hard feelings
I did misunderstand what he was trying to say. Thats why punctuation is a good thing when typing.
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