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Old 01-25-2007, 09:47 AM
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Ok so i've done a lot of searching about ecu's, b18c5's and stock type r 1/4 mile times, and i've come to the conclusion that something isn't right with my car.

from what i've seen some people in here doing with their type r's/b18c5 setup, they're getting about 170-180hp to the wheels and are running some where between 13.8-14.3's with just I/H/E and some R compound tires.

here's my problem I'm getting 159.5hp and 117tq to the wheels and, I'm running a 15.2 in the 1/4. It was consistantly running 15.2's with a 2.1 60ft. but i have a b16 ECU out of a 00 SI.

My setup is:
b18c5 in 99 EJ6
clutch masters stage 2
ACT 8lb flywheel
MSD
AEM short ram
stock type r rims with kumho MX tires
DC header, test pipe, and cat back

the motor is in good condition but I think my main problem is the b16 ecu that I'm using? I dont have any idea on ECU's so anything with that would help too and concerning my setup.

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Default Re: B18c5 w/159whp? (Xtream_V)

Yes, the ECU is almost certainly your problem.

That being said, 160 whp is not unheard of from a essentially stock C5.
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Yeah your ECU is definitly the culprit. Get a stock ITR ECU or get a chipped P28 and tune it.
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So then what would be the best means of getting it back to origianl type r status because the I'm clueless about ECU modifacation? pretty much all I know is that upgrading the ECU is a good thing. But I've been looking at the hondata s300 and it looks good but I dont really know which one would be best in the long run because eventually i plan on boosting my motor.
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i thought the stock ITR ecu's wont work with a swap like this?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xtream_V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the stock ITR ecu's wont work with a swap like this?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It will, you'd just need to remove the immobilizer or get a conversion harness, depending upon which ITR ECU you are using. You can also get an OBD-1 ECU and chip it, which would allow you to tune to your specific setup. This would also require a conversion harness, as well as tuning hardware/software.
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where would the imobilizer be at? because my older brother just got AEM's EMS for his 00 Type R so i might be able to use his stock one?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xtream_V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where would the imobilizer be at? because my older brother just got AEM's EMS for his 00 Type R so i might be able to use his stock one?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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only 00-01 ITR ecus have immobilizers, and when disabled you get a CEL, try to find a OBD2A 98 ITR ecu and use a conversion harness (OBD2B-&gt;A), this will also allow you to pass emissions with no problems
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its the ecu
Old 01-25-2007, 10:29 AM
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no emission here so i'm not worried in the least bit about that. but will the CEL make it run in limp mode? and how do i recieve PM's??
Old 01-25-2007, 10:38 AM
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go to kenji or phearable and get a chipped ecu for your exact setup and also get a obd2b-&gt;obd1 conversion harness
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yea i've been on phearable's site and it looked pretty good for the price and i just don't know about that other one i haven't seen anything of his and phearable comes with the conversion harness right?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xtream_V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i've been on phearable's site and it looked pretty good for the price and i just don't know about that other one i haven't seen anything of his and phearable comes with the conversion harness right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
try kenji211.com
His setups are just as good as phearable
and, NO, they don't come with the harness, you're gonna need to buy that seperately from the ECU.
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Just get a chip p28 ecu with the coversion harness and tune it.
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ok..i'll have to look into that but how do i accept PM's?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xtream_V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok..i'll have to look into that but how do i accept PM's?</TD></TR></TABLE>
try enabling pop-ups on your web browser
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xtream_V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok..i'll have to look into that but how do i accept PM's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it should automatically pop up on your screen....make sure your computer allows pop ups for honda-tech
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Xtream_V &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok..i'll have to look into that but how do i accept PM's?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Turn off your popup blocker or go to the top right side of the window "My profile" then "Instant Message history" and look for the person that PM'd you
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ok...thats awesome...thanks guys
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