eddiecut

or would i have to get a cable to hydro conversion and really is the route to go or should i just wait and get the jdm gsr??????

Pat McGroin

katman had a b17 in his hatch so its possible...i thought they werent cable????

eddiecut

that would be great if they were not cable

slomofo

iTrader: (1)

You need to convert your civic to cable or get a hydro tranny from a B16/B18/B20.

eddiecut

so they are cable???? what are they cable or hydro

slomofo

iTrader: (1)

They're cable. All second gen integra's are cable, even the B17 GSR.

GokuSSJ4

go with the gsr jdm ,

navin

iTrader: (1)

just get another B-Sereis tranny - 99-00 SI for its short *** gearing.

kmf0211

b17?

Mr Hammond

Yes it would work just like any other b series swap. Couple of problems. One very rare to find. Two get a new tranny. SI is a good choice. Positives are 1.7L, but on the flip side its only like 9.2:1 compression. Throw some CTR pistons and CTR cams (or skunks) in there killer set-up. Be more practiacl to just build a b16a. Cheaper, easier to find and no conversion or new tranny. Whatever you wanna do. If you got time and money I say go for it. It's cool to be different.
Later.

eddiecut

fond a good deal on a b17, all i need to do is upgrade the tranny. I think i could build it for cheaper than i could do the b16 swap.

kmf0211

b17??? lol im lost ive heard of it in Katmans car but never seen this engine...is it like a older version of the gsr?

slomofo

iTrader: (1)

GSR was born in 1992 and came with the almighty and undesired B17 160hp cable transmission motor package. In 1994, the B18C1 came out with hydraulic transmission and 170hp. Fourth gen civic owners always ****** up any B17's they can find cuz they're dirt cheap and a simple swap.

kmf0211

thanks a lot...verry informative lol....how is this motor in a 5th gen hatch...if i were to find one, would it be a good set up if i just bought a hydro tranny to go with it?

Katman

yesh indeedee I did have this motor in my EG.
I still miss it to this day. It was a fun motor.

Just some observations on the B17...
The B17A block is just like a B16A block, visually looks the same, same deck height etc, except with a B17A1 stamp on it. The internals are the other parts that make the difference as well: 1.7L crank, the rods are shorter than B16A rods, and the pistons...well are a joke..they're flat top pistons.....no dome at all. But in contrast to an 89-91 b16a, its kinda kewl how the B17A makes 160hp with the compression ratio of 9.7.1 it has, and yet the 89-91 b16a w/ 10.2 compression ratio and being 1.6L makes 160hp also.

All ya gotta do is put some b16a or higher compression pistons (CTR's work great!), in a B17A and it'll up the HP almost by 10 ponies (with ctr's that is).

The block will bolt into any EF chassis (using some kinda bolt in kit) or 92-01 civic using 94+ integra mounts. There's nothing different about the way it mounts either. Just get the correct mounts for your chassis and your set.

Trannywise, if you own an EG/DC/EK, just pick up a Hydro B-series (B16A or Type-R suggested) tranny and complete 94+ clutch w/flywheel and mate it all together and you'll be set.. (I suggest a lightened f.wheel too....lovely lovely throttle response).

The B17A engine is actually the OG GS-R engine. Then when 94 rolled over, the 1.8L GSR motor came out....

high compression B17A =

Ricey McRicerton

wow...ive never seen a b17 for sale with less than like 100k on it

VTC_CiViC

Just a quick DIY, the 92-93 GS-R's were available with the tightest geared tranny ever offered in a USDM B-series equipped car (.88 5th gear)... yes, tighter than the Si and ITR

B-series Assassin

Dont you mean FIY .

Mr Hammond

Actually don't you mean for him to mean FYI?

thashadow

my mechanic has a turboed b17 in his cx....and its a fast ****** car

NiiS

now that's funny