coasttime

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So I am on a Island called Guam and I am going to be here for the next 2 years and I am getting deployed for the next four months so I am trying to figure what motor I want to buy when I get back. Or if I want to build my d16. Here is my goal it is to have a daily driver but I want to have at least 250 to 300 hp to the wheels. So the question is what should I do? I don't want to spend over 2 grand. And over here it is hard to tune a car because there is no dyno. With that being said I would prefer to go all motor with b series or d. I was looking into Frankenstein a b20 or just putting a b16a or just building up my d16y8? Let me here your opinion.

sayyoooon

250-300 to the wheels without tune? GL. especially not allmotor for less than 2grand. the bseries motor alone(for that horsepower) would cost you 2g's.

Linked

unless you wanna go GSR (which is like 4k for parts and labor if you dont do it yourself)

your gonna have to supercharge or turbocharge your d16 to make that numbers (AND TUNE IT)

not having a dyno nearby is not a reason to build a motor and not tune it

is there a way you can ship the motor +trans somewhere to be tuned?

coasttime

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Ok I see where you both are coming from. So I am stuck! Then is there any way I can get a motor around that price that I can get 200 hp out of. What about a B20 Frankenstein?

hondamark35

i would eliminate the idea of a frankenstein motor if you can't tune it..

it may not be a bad idea to look for a motor that already get's this power without modification.. i think you can do an H22 or similar swap for near what your wanting to spend and there are H-series available with 200hp stock. i know there is a lot of information out there on this, and plenty of guys who have done it. check out the hybrid sub-forum

cmgogo

wait your on guam and you want to have a car there that has that much power dude? No offence, but guam aint THAT big, just get a DD, and save your BAH and BAS for something better once you get conus orders.

coasttime

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That is the sad truth. I guess it would be smart to just wait. I miss the states.

jhammond_82

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just do an ls/vtec for now. later when you get off the island, and come back to the states, boost it.

coasttime

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I am not familiar with the LS can you lighten me with some info? And the H22 has alot of work i heard that you have to weld some mounts and the steering is not all that great. If you have more info let me know.

20-EM2-05

The LS and B20 are about the same exact swaps. It's just that the B20 has more torque. Search it up on the forums "How to build a reliable LS vtec".

As for the H22's, it's defiantly not a fun swap to do. That is correct, alot of welding, and mounts.

From what i've heard of, it makes your front end heavy. Just don't be thinking drift when you pull corners haha.

coasttime

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I heard that the b20 block is not that strong. What about the LS block?

0Sales@Bisimoto.com

i would agree on waiting till you get to the states. to make the power your looking for you really do need a goood good tune. with out that ablility i would hold off on any real "power" builds. we wouldnt want you to dump alot of money in a chassis just to have it blow up

boxeocampeon

you wont be able to do it for under 2gs. get a bseries

:)eghyphy

bump for you

Jimster480

You cant really go all motor on a D series. They dont make power unless they are built like race cars and therefore they have no gas mileage, etc. A B20VTEC would be fine as long as you leave the internals stock. You can get an ECU chipped and loaded with a Basemap that will be fine for a B20VTEC shipped to you from the states.

coasttime

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Would a B20 block be good for turbo later on down the road? Or will I have to sleeve it?

Jimster480

its ok, just not for high power because its bored out.

20-EM2-05

IMO, I like the B20 block better than the LS because of the extra torque and especially if you tune it correctly, you still skit while going from 3rd-4th haha.

LS block is better block to turbo, since b20 are all bored out i wouldn't recommend you turbo it, unless you sleeve it.

But like everyone says, don't do a swap without a tune. Just wait until you get to the states then you can feel free to do anything you want to that car haha.

SugarsEK

h22 ..a case of beer ..some friends and some used mounts

Jimster480

just get a B20, its a straightforward swap that doesnt need tuning. And it is pretty damn fast.

coasttime

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The reasearch that I have been doing the b20 sounds better more and more. The h22 and a case of beer sounds great! But alot of work. Keep hitting me with more info if you dont mind.

Jimster480

B20 is cheap aswell. You just cant use the B20 Tranny. You need a LS, GSR or B16 Tranny.