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Old 10-20-2003, 03:26 PM
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I think the intake arm would be the Comptech CAI and the Icebox goes around it ... hahah man I suck

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Stock GSR intake pipe and GSR airbox with K&N filter.
Sounds like you're too skiddish for a CAI.

The problem is the swap I got didn't come with the stock intake. That is the only piece missing as the guy I got it from tossed it when he put his CAI on.

I am very skiddish due to the area I live in and the weather, but I am willing to pay the cash for the Comptech setup if it is worth it and truely has an extremely low risk of hydrolocking.

Thanks for all the tips and advice guys...
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Default Re: AEM V1 vs. V2 CAI-- any real world thoughts? (DJ Nokturnal)

The V2 AEM CAI uses an inline Helmholtz resonator to dampen out oscillations generated withint the intake. The only issues arises that the resonator itself was configured for a certain displacement, compression ratio and engine breathing capabilities. If you used a v2 intake that was meant for a 1.6L, on a 1.8L you wont get that great of results. If you are using the v2 intake on a fairly stock internal engine, you'll get better results than the v1 intake. The typically gain is 3-4whp difference between a Helmholtz equipped intake than one without.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DJ Nokturnal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The problem is the swap I got didn't come with the stock intake. That is the only piece missing as the guy I got it from tossed it when he put his CAI on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can find stock set-ups for next to nothing here on H-T. I have a GSR airbox for $40 shipped if you want it. You can prolly find the pipe for next to free.

Comptech is cool, but runs around $210 or so for the filter and box, then another what, $100? $150 for the comptech intake arm?
Old 10-20-2003, 03:56 PM
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Nice I might be taking you up on that GSR box offer. The project car goes into storage for the winter in like 3 weeks and I just want to have acouple weeks on the new engine before then. It is $571 cdn shipped to my door (Comptech Ice Box with Comptech CAI). Does that seem on point for pricing?

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the v2 is not compatible w/ a bypass valve. i have it and am very paranoid about hydrolocking so im probably gonna sell it for the icebox
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Default Re: AEM V1 vs. V2 CAI-- any real world thoughts? (jwn7)

Just a follow up from Comptech:

Andrew,
We've tested out ice box with a vacuum 4 trime greater than the engine makes at wide open throttle during peak rpm without any water being sucked up into the filter. However, you can force water into the airhorn and possibly the engine by the velocity of the car going through standing water deep enough to cover the air horn. You can always pop the lid off during the wet season so that there's no chance of vacuum to pull up water. There is no guarantee that for our system, but the testing we've done speaks for itself. Hopefully this helps. Thanks.
-Joe.

That was the reply I got from Comptech to the question of "Does the Icebox eliminate the chance of hydrolock?"

Just something to add to the thread

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Default Re: AEM V1 vs. V2 CAI-- any real world thoughts? (DJ Nokturnal)

do not get the v2. It is just a waste of money. If you are so worried about hydrolocking then either get the ice box or what I think the best bet would be is to get a j's or fake j's short ram intake. They offer great throttle response and good all around power. I have been reading up on them a lot. I actually just ordered one to replace my aem cold air intake. I am also paranoid about hydrolock . Here is a link about the fake j's intake.... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=569187 and I got it for $57 shipped! Way less than my aem cai was.
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Comptech is the way to go for sure, over AEM.
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Cold Air Intake is down low. Short ram intakes are up high.
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i thought it was the other way around. My aem cai pullsn like a biatch up high, but hardly provides any power down low. I've heard that short rams give better throttle response and low to midrange. Less peak horsepower than cold air.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought it was the other way around. My aem cai pullsn like a biatch up high, but hardly provides any power down low. I've heard that short rams give better throttle response and low to midrange. Less peak horsepower than cold air.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe he was talking about the physical location of the filter . . .
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go aem short ram.. check dyno results of cold air vers short ram... not worth the damn headacks.. then in the end turbo it then no more cai problems!
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I've had a CAI, and being the idiot I am had to drive through a *flood* downtown. Scariest thing I'ver ever had to do, and my car was fine! No hydrolocking....just a soaked filter. I guess I was lucky. If you're worried about it, or it snows at all where you're at, get a SHORT RAM. After reading this thread, I think I will be switching over, just for saftey and throttle response.
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do this: Get a CAI thats a 2 piece, when its summer keep it CAI and when its rainning and winter their, just take the extension off, and BAMMM u got a short ram just my .02. I do it here in cali, but never have to make it a short ram since its beautiful weather here
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleepingeg6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do this: Get a CAI thats a 2 piece, when its summer keep it CAI and when its rainning and winter their, just take the extension off, and BAMMM u got a short ram just my .02. I do it here in cali, but never have to make it a short ram since its beautiful weather here </TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah you never really have to worry about a CAI in the bay area unless your **** is hella slammed.
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I've never seen a 2-piece CAI before. link?
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Just get a short ram... they are cheap and they wont hydro lock unless you submerged the whole engine (it would already be fucked by then) get that fake j's racing intake... im geting one for my gsr :-)
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What does "where it snows" have anything to do with this issue or hydrolocking?
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Ok, for the record:

Hydrolock is NOT a concern for rain/snow/weather. The ONLY, and I REPEAT ONLY way to hydrolock an engine with a cold air intake is if you drive FAST through a puddle that is as deep as your floorpans. Honestly, if you're trying to drive through water deep enough to get your feet wet, you need help.

Secondly, it honestly doesn't matter what intake you use, because NONE of them come close to the HP gains you get from an open throttle body with no filter at all.

My advice and my results (being a shop owner, I see and tell this story all the time) you'll get more HP out of plugs and wires and 2 degrees of timing than from ANY intake. Get any old shortram you like, and when you go to the strip, pull the sucker off and go open T-Body.

Yes. It's better. Than ALL of them. And I've tested ALL of them.

Don't believe the hype. That's all these advertisements are. The AEM V1, V2, Injen, so what...... On a D16Z6, it makes 2-3 HP more than a factory airbox with a fram filter. Just "sounds" louder. I've tried them all, and the best is "none".

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tim the Stick &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Don't believe the hype. That's all these advertisements are. The AEM V1, V2, Injen, so what...... On a D16Z6, it makes 2-3 HP more than a factory airbox with a fram filter. Just "sounds" louder. I've tried them all, and the best is "none".

Stick</TD></TR></TABLE>


i agree. intakes are just a bunch of hype. i wish i would have just saved the 200 bucks toward a turbo instead of blowing it on 2 hp.
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