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Old 11-08-2010, 04:11 AM
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Default 95 hatch auto has a manual ECU - shitty gas mileage

I just picked up a 95 DX hatch (automagic) to use as a DD. It's surprisingly in decent shape, and runs pretty well with its stock D15B7. It does get somewhat shitty gas milage tho...but that could be an old O2 / cat thing. I'm gonna replace those and see if the MPG increases.

However, while troubleshooting my AC clutch not kicking in, I found that it has a manual ECU (P06-A02), where it should have an auto ECU (P06-A52).

Would it be okay to leave it? I have no cel, and like stated, it seems to run fine.

Any insight would be much appreciated.



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Default Re: Wrong ECU in my 95 hatch

-Do an ignition system tune up.

-I would think that the engine rpm where the auto transmission chooses to change gear is non-optimal without an auto ECU. This may also contribute to the low gas mileage.
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Originally Posted by madjap
I just picked up a 95 DX hatch (automagic) to use as a DD. It's surprisingly in decent shape, and runs pretty well with its stock D15B7. It does get somewhat shitty gas milage tho...but that could be an old O2 / cat thing. I'm gonna replace those and see if the MPG increases.
Define shitty mileage. When I swapped the automatic out of my sedan for a DX 5 speed I picked up about 100km/per tank. I never actually checked actually mileage till after I swapped the tranny and at that point I as getting around 40US MPG. If you're used to driving 5 speed civics be prepared to be underwhelmed as far as fuel mileage goes.

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However, while troubleshooting my AC clutch not kicking in, I found that it has a manual ECU (P06-A02), where it should have an auto ECU (P06-A52).
Would it be okay to leave it? I have no cel, and like stated, it seems to run fine.

Any insight would be much appreciated.
I'd definitely replace it, automatic P06s aren't worth much.
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Default Re: 95 hatch auto has a manual ECU

Check and see if i's just the ECU case, I've seen some that had guts switched between cases for some unknown reason. There should also be a sticker identifying the board on the grey ecu connector, inside the case. Ideally the board sticker and ecu case sticker would match, but this is not alsways the case, I found out the hard way.
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Default Re: Wrong ECU in my 95 hatch

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
-Do an ignition system tune up.
Already done.

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
-I would think that the engine rpm where the auto transmission chooses to change gear is non-optimal without an auto ECU. This may also contribute to the low gas mileage.
I did not realize the auto tranny was controlled by the ECU.....I thought the tranny had it's own mechanism.

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Define shitty mileage. When I swapped the automatic out of my sedan for a DX 5 speed I picked up about 100km/per tank. I never actually checked actually mileage till after I swapped the tranny and at that point I as getting around 40US MPG. If you're used to driving 5 speed civics be prepared to be underwhelmed as far as fuel mileage goes.
I'm getting 24-25 MPG, driving super conservative.
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Originally Posted by madjap

I did not realize the auto tranny was controlled by the ECU.....I thought the tranny had it's own mechanism.
The auto transmission has it's own mechanism but the process is optimized by the ECU:



Also, what did your tune up consist of?
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If you are going to sell the manual ecu, I will take it off your hands.
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Default Re: 95 hatch auto has a manual ECU

Originally Posted by RON@HT
Also, what did your tune up consist of?
cap, rotor, wires, ngk plugs, fuel, air and oil filter with oil change, adjusted vlave lash, checked timing.


Originally Posted by jayWknight
If you are going to sell the manual ecu, I will take it off your hands.
PM me. I am going to go get an auto ECU tomorrow, so the manual ecu will be available.
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Any CEL codes?
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Default Re: 95 hatch auto has a manual ECU

Originally Posted by RonJ@HT
Any CEL codes?
As stated in the first post, no CEL.

I just swapped the ECU for an auto one (P06-A52), and it does seem to run smoother. I also now have a working A/C, and the shifter interlock works.

Yay.



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Originally Posted by madjap
As stated in the first post, no CEL.

I just swapped the ECU for an auto one (P06-A52), and it does seem to run smoother. I also now have a working A/C, and the shifter interlock works.

Yay.



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It will be interesting to see whether your gas mileage also improves.
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