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06-23-2008, 11:12 AM
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I have a 1997 stock ex, what is the best thing to work on my stock non vtec engine? how can i make it faster and what name brands should i use like aem, dc sports, skunk 2, etc.?
06-23-2008, 07:32 PM
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Yeah, I have a 99 EX, that doesn't have a Vtec. Its just a 1.6L SOHC. The best place to start for more power is a Cold Air Intake, and a Catback Exhaust System.
06-23-2008, 07:40 PM
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All EX models have vtec. If you dont, then you dont have an ex...simple.
All ex models came with a d16y8 engine. All d16y8 engines came equipped with vtec.
Dont even F-ing tell me that you know you dont have vtec because the valve cover doesnt say it.
Because I would call you morons
All ex models came with a d16y8 engine. All d16y8 engines came equipped with vtec.
Dont even F-ing tell me that you know you dont have vtec because the valve cover doesnt say it.
Because I would call you morons
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Re: (scpres1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by scpres1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so The D16Y8 is a SOHC Vtec? I didn't know that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you serious? It is true that 96-00 civics don't have VTEC on the valve covere but if your block states D16Y8 on it then it is a SOHC VTEC. 
Are you serious? It is true that 96-00 civics don't have VTEC on the valve covere but if your block states D16Y8 on it then it is a SOHC VTEC.
06-24-2008, 12:33 PM
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I know vtec doesnt pop that hard on a d16 but damn i atleast you can feel it a little bit when you hit it. Rev that **** to 6gs and tell me if you felt it...
06-25-2008, 09:30 PM
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Re: (pdiggitydogg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All EX models have vtec. If you dont, then you dont have an ex...simple.
All ex models came with a d16y8 engine. All d16y8 engines came equipped with vtec.
Dont even F-ing tell me that you know you dont have vtec because the valve cover doesnt say it.
Because I would call you morons</TD></TR></TABLE>
THANK YOU
I would say, starting off cheap, go with I/H/E. I have an aem intake. that's all i'm gonna do though, not worth spending so much money in parts for the other 2 just for 3 hps......
All ex models came with a d16y8 engine. All d16y8 engines came equipped with vtec.
Dont even F-ing tell me that you know you dont have vtec because the valve cover doesnt say it.
Because I would call you morons</TD></TR></TABLE>
THANK YOU
I would say, starting off cheap, go with I/H/E. I have an aem intake. that's all i'm gonna do though, not worth spending so much money in parts for the other 2 just for 3 hps......
06-25-2008, 09:42 PM
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Re: 1997 stock ex (EHbOOSt07)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EHbOOSt07 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not all of ex's are vtec tho, and i have one that isnt vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
are u serious?? lol thats why they are labeled ex.. and costs more than a dx or cx.. what is wrong wit u? all ex comes with d16y8 vtec.. if your doesnt have vtec then someone must have screwed u and replaced the motor for a d16y7 or something..
are u serious?? lol thats why they are labeled ex.. and costs more than a dx or cx.. what is wrong wit u? all ex comes with d16y8 vtec.. if your doesnt have vtec then someone must have screwed u and replaced the motor for a d16y7 or something..
06-30-2008, 09:30 AM
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alright so what do i have to do to see if its a d16y8 vtec and not a d16y7, and are you sure that its vtec even tho it doesnt say it on the valve cover?
06-30-2008, 09:53 AM
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Re: (EHbOOSt07)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EHbOOSt07 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright so what do i have to do to see if its a d16y8 vtec and not a d16y7, and are you sure that its vtec even tho it doesnt say it on the valve cover?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The D16Y8 will have a VTEC solenoid on it, the D16Y7 won't.
The VTEC solenoid is a little brownish-green cylinder like thing on the end of the head, next to the distributor, looks like this:
or
If it's the stock motor in the EX, then it's definitely, 100% VTEC, they did NOT make an EX from '92-'00 that did not have VTEC.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zoso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know vtec doesnt pop that hard on a d16 but damn i atleast you can feel it a little bit when you hit it. Rev that **** to 6gs and tell me if you felt it...</TD></TR></TABLE>
The VTEC "kick" of a D series motor can be compared to/confused with the entrance to the regular power band of most other 4 cylinder motors...and if it's an Evo VIII or something small w/ a turbo, forget about it altogether. The D series VTEC engagement isn't really a kick as it is a change in the note of the exhaust.
As for your engine mods:
Whether it's VTEC or not is irrelevant, D16 motors do NOT take well to bolt-ons.
You can spend 700 in name brand intake/header/exhaust and you'll wind up with ~5 more hp at the wheels. Or you can spend 250 on parts without a huge import name and only get ~4 more hp at the wheels - choice is yours on that one, but on a D series, since it responds so shitty to bolt-ons in its stock form to begin with, then you're really not going to gain much, so you don't need optimum performance.
Obviously, if you wanted to make it a naturally aspirated monster, then you'd go with super high brands, like bisimoto, which will cost you an arm and a leg, but will get power out of it.
You're best bet is to just set it up with simple intake/header/exhaust or turbo it. Anything more is a waste of cash unless ur going for a full blown D series NA (which might sound good at first, until you realize you'll be seeing 700 or better or a header).
In the words of Archidictus:
"boost or nothing"
(That's for D series motors, it means turbocharge it, or don't do anything to it, because it's simply not worth it in terms of how much hp you get it for how much money you spend)
For a D series, if ur going to put intake/header/exhaust on it for a daily driver, keep the price low, don't go for top name-brand parts, but don't go for a lot of ebay **** either. Take me for example, my friend bought $1500 in name brand I/H/E for his car, I got a custom one piece wider exhaust, header from ??, intake from ?? (I bought the intake pipe from a member here on H-T for 20 bucks, and bought a K&N filter for it...a pipe is a pipe is a pipe when it comes to intakes..) - and well, he can't tell the difference between his car with its apex'i exhaust, injen short ram intake, and DC Sports header. Needless to say I proved him wrong and he's quite pissed.
Feel free to PM me if you want some help/advice/explanation...
The D16Y8 will have a VTEC solenoid on it, the D16Y7 won't.
The VTEC solenoid is a little brownish-green cylinder like thing on the end of the head, next to the distributor, looks like this:
or
If it's the stock motor in the EX, then it's definitely, 100% VTEC, they did NOT make an EX from '92-'00 that did not have VTEC.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zoso »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know vtec doesnt pop that hard on a d16 but damn i atleast you can feel it a little bit when you hit it. Rev that **** to 6gs and tell me if you felt it...</TD></TR></TABLE>
The VTEC "kick" of a D series motor can be compared to/confused with the entrance to the regular power band of most other 4 cylinder motors...and if it's an Evo VIII or something small w/ a turbo, forget about it altogether. The D series VTEC engagement isn't really a kick as it is a change in the note of the exhaust.
As for your engine mods:
Whether it's VTEC or not is irrelevant, D16 motors do NOT take well to bolt-ons.
You can spend 700 in name brand intake/header/exhaust and you'll wind up with ~5 more hp at the wheels. Or you can spend 250 on parts without a huge import name and only get ~4 more hp at the wheels - choice is yours on that one, but on a D series, since it responds so shitty to bolt-ons in its stock form to begin with, then you're really not going to gain much, so you don't need optimum performance.
Obviously, if you wanted to make it a naturally aspirated monster, then you'd go with super high brands, like bisimoto, which will cost you an arm and a leg, but will get power out of it.
You're best bet is to just set it up with simple intake/header/exhaust or turbo it. Anything more is a waste of cash unless ur going for a full blown D series NA (which might sound good at first, until you realize you'll be seeing 700 or better or a header).
In the words of Archidictus:
"boost or nothing"
(That's for D series motors, it means turbocharge it, or don't do anything to it, because it's simply not worth it in terms of how much hp you get it for how much money you spend)
For a D series, if ur going to put intake/header/exhaust on it for a daily driver, keep the price low, don't go for top name-brand parts, but don't go for a lot of ebay **** either. Take me for example, my friend bought $1500 in name brand I/H/E for his car, I got a custom one piece wider exhaust, header from ??, intake from ?? (I bought the intake pipe from a member here on H-T for 20 bucks, and bought a K&N filter for it...a pipe is a pipe is a pipe when it comes to intakes..) - and well, he can't tell the difference between his car with its apex'i exhaust, injen short ram intake, and DC Sports header. Needless to say I proved him wrong and he's quite pissed.
Feel free to PM me if you want some help/advice/explanation...
06-30-2008, 10:03 AM
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near the top or the screen there should be a search button. try asking that thing for advice besides make another one of these threads. not trying to be mean but i got told the same **** and now i use the search button and i dont get any of these other ******** giving me ****. just a heads up
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Re: (b18crx88)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18crx88 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">near the top or the screen there should be a search button. try asking that thing for advice besides make another one of these threads. not trying to be mean but i got told the same **** and now i use the search button and i dont get any of these other ******** giving me ****. just a heads up</TD></TR></TABLE>
There's also http://www.google.com - most of the time I find that to be better than searching around in here, simply because if there is something in here, google will also find it.
There's also http://www.google.com - most of the time I find that to be better than searching around in here, simply because if there is something in here, google will also find it.
06-30-2008, 10:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18crx88 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i cant believe that kid said that cause the valve cover didnt say it have vtec that it didnt. what a retard</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, apparently it's relatively complicated for some people to wrap their head around the complexity that from '92-'00 on VTEC motors, some had VTEC written on them...others didn't...
*shrugs*
Yeah, apparently it's relatively complicated for some people to wrap their head around the complexity that from '92-'00 on VTEC motors, some had VTEC written on them...others didn't...
*shrugs*
06-30-2008, 11:06 AM
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i wana know why there have been so many kids asking such stupid questions lately instead of using the search button to answer their questions. and by the way yes all ex's are vtec.
PLEASE USE THE SEARCH BUTTON !!!
PLEASE USE THE SEARCH BUTTON !!!
06-30-2008, 11:18 AM
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Re: (Syndacate)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Syndacate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah, apparently it's relatively complicated for some people to wrap their head around the complexity that from '92-'00 on VTEC motors, some had VTEC written on them...others didn't...
*shrugs*</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because obviously everybody should know about Honda motors, how they operate, what motors have vtec or not, and whether or not their car has vtec. If they don't, then they're retards.
Yeah, apparently it's relatively complicated for some people to wrap their head around the complexity that from '92-'00 on VTEC motors, some had VTEC written on them...others didn't...
*shrugs*</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because obviously everybody should know about Honda motors, how they operate, what motors have vtec or not, and whether or not their car has vtec. If they don't, then they're retards.
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