Price

my friend has a hatch back honda civic 1994, he wants to change the engine of the car

SO it woudl be faster and so that he could race with the car

what type of engine do u think would be best suited for the car, he is looking for some information on types of engines, he asked me to look it up for him because he didnt have time really. I dont know that much about cars so i am asking you guys for help.

What type of engine would u recommend i think he wants to swing v tech direction.

Also can u provide me with some links that I can go to so I can get some specs and info on the engine

Navid OG

B16, B18b, B18c5, H22a.....he can also go with a D16Y8 Turbo

al3e

oh dawum that d16y8 turb sounds good right now yeah start off with a simple b16 or b18...then go vtec

zer0.

B16A,B18C (GSR)are great platforms to build on.

http://www.hmotorsonline.com
http://www.passwordjdm.com
http://www.5ghb.com

some useful links

jolt-tsp

B18's are pretty popular in Hatch's. What kinda racing is he wanting to do?

Also, this is a preemptive "Shh!" to anyone thats going to give him a hard time about spelling VTEC wrong.

Price

hey its a she

I jus used his alias

I tell alyuh I aint tooo hott up on the car

so its Vtec huh coolio

thanks guys for all the help gonna check those links out right now see what i can get

will keep u updated

oh and the type of racing he wants to do it basically drags

Drag racing others

legally and illegallg sssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

jolt-tsp

For dragging I think an H22 Turbo set up would be your best bet. Not too costly and pretty solid. Wait for some more opinions to flow in of course

Navid OG

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jolt-tsp &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For dragging I think an H22 Turbo set up would be your best bet. Not too costly and pretty solid. Wait for some more opinions to flow in of course </TD></TR></TABLE>

not too costly????? i think the H22 turbo's are the most expensive ones.... a stock H22 will do 13's .. does she need more than that?

Pikachu

Actually, going that route isn't cheap either. I think a nicely built D16 turbo'd would be more fun. Or go with LS and turbo that. Turboing an H22 would be extremely great but it costs quite a bit.

2000blackgsr

I can't believe no one has told this guy to search. This topic is posted almost every day. For waht its worth I say go with B18C5.

RS_91

B16: 160hp, torque is a little low but still the one I would go with. Its a great motor to build and forced induction in the future would would provide great improvement.

B18B1: 140hp, 129 ft/lbs of torque. Decent power, and enough torque to get you goin. No v-tec on this one, but you can always swap the head in the future.

B18C1: This motor is an excellent one to go with. If he has the money I would recommend it. 170hp, and around 127 ft/lbs of torque I believe. Good choice if he wants to go all motor.

B18C5: Oh yes, the Type R. Looking at 195hp and you can definently feel the vtec. Its a bit expensive, but hey, its Type R baby

H22: Hmmm, Its a great motor, lots of power AND torque, but I dont know how it handle in a hatch. The motor is heavy and if you drop it in a light car lke the hatch, I think you might have some handling problems.

D16Y8: The single cam vtec putting down 127 horsepower. Not a bad choice though, look into a turbo for this one if he wants to go "fast." Also its pretty cheap to find, so if you blow the motor, no big deal.

I hope this helps. Good luck

Archidictus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic_EX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B16: 160hp, torque is a little low but still the one I would go with. Its a great motor to build and forced induction in the future would would provide great improvement.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Torque is actually insanely low and the motor is way more expensive than it should be for the baseline that it'll put down. If you're considering a B16A, get a D16Z6 instead.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18B1: 140hp, 129 ft/lbs of torque. Decent power, and enough torque to get you goin. No v-tec on this one, but you can always swap the head in the future.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's VTEC, and swapping the head isn't a simple process, or a cheap one, for that matter. You'll see low 15's once you learn to drive this swap.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18C1: This motor is an excellent one to go with. If he has the money I would recommend it. 170hp, and around 127 ft/lbs of torque I believe. Good choice if he wants to go all motor.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good choice if you want to do ANYTHING. Takes well to boost, works well with boltons, revs high, pulls hard, nothing bad to say about the GSR swap.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B18C5: Oh yes, the Type R. Looking at 195hp and you can definently feel the vtec. Its a bit expensive, but hey, its Type R baby </TD></TR></TABLE>

Worth every penny. Slap a nice set of cams in this bad boy, some stronger springs and retainers, boltons and tuning and you've got a sincere corvette killer. Feels stronger than the numbers would suggest.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">H22: Hmmm, Its a great motor, lots of power AND torque, but I dont know how it handle in a hatch. The motor is heavy and if you drop it in a light car lke the hatch, I think you might have some handling problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Perfect drag engine. Gobs of torque and 200hp. Figure out how to hook it up and you'll have a helluva fast car. The motor will not effect handling at all if you put stiffer springs in the front to compensate. Silly noobs.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">D16Y8: The single cam vtec putting down 127 horsepower. Not a bad choice though, look into a turbo for this one if he wants to go "fast." Also its pretty cheap to find, so if you blow the motor, no big deal.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Junkyard turbo setups on this stock engine can push you to low 14's. I've got friends who do it frequently. Blow an engine, pick up another. Simple as that. Turbo isn't something to be trifled with, though, and I suggest you learn a lot more before deciding on it as a power adder.

RS_91

the B18B1 comes in the integra ls.

DOHC and NO VTEC. Silly regulars.

slowdx

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic_EX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the B18B1 comes in the integra ls.

DOHC and NO VTEC. Silly regulars. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ha owned.

Archidictus

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Civic_EX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the B18B1 comes in the integra ls.

DOHC and NO VTEC. Silly regulars. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't mean that the B18B had VTEC, I was correcting your use of v-tec .

Silly noobs.

JCimport

I guess the real question is: How much is your friend willing to spend?
All the engines that are mentioned here are all really good.
The new K series is a really excellent engine and they have alot of potential.
I am boosted on my 94 eg, I would never go back to NA.

Mod. for J&C
-TB

jolt-tsp

Good point.. If your dragging and have no price cap, you could probably squeeze a 350 or something in there

Price

Thanks for the help guys it been informative, I am learning alot myself.

The links helped out a great deal

Got some prices and stuff so my friend could udget properly


He wants to know though, if you can turbo an engine and run a low boost without changing the pistons, I know its recommended but can you and would you guys recommend he do that.


For my info---- why is it recommended???

Archidictus

Of course you can, but many people choose to run forged, low CR internals because the boost bug is addictive: i.e. once you go six psi you'll want eight, then ten, then fourteen, then eighteen, etc. Forged internals and a sleeved block allow you to make an adjustable amount of power (from benign to rediculous) without worrying about blowing **** up.

If you think you can boost seven psi on a stock GSR or B18B or B16 or D16, you can. If you think you'll be satisfied with that setup after two months, you're wrong .

Carlo

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by al3e &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh dawum that d16y8 turb sounds good right now yeah start off with a simple b16 or b18...then go vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>

go vtec?

Price

what psi would you recommend for a normal honda twin cam ( not vtec) without changing the pistons

Price

Oh and is it posile to put turbo on a twin cam honda engine without changing the pistons. If it can be done, what boost would u recommend it run at.


what type of turbo to use

Navid OG

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Price &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh and is it posile to put turbo on a twin cam honda engine without changing the pistons. If it can be done, what boost would u recommend it run at.


what type of turbo to use</TD></TR></TABLE>

yes it is possible...... and i would recommend 8 PSI for both, but others have argued against me that one can go higher.

94_HATCH

H22 would hawl asscheeks.