[FAQ] Y8 Oil starvation ?
11-19-2004, 10:47 AM
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Y8 Oil starvation ?
I read alot of info in the SOHC forum about Y8's and oil starvation problems in the # 4 cylinder.
Also serached this forum and could not find too much. Is this starvation problem unique to 5th, or 6th Gen Civics ? Any other info about oil pumps etc. remedys?
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Also serached this forum and could not find too much. Is this starvation problem unique to 5th, or 6th Gen Civics ? Any other info about oil pumps etc. remedys?
Thx
11-19-2004, 10:58 AM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (sohcvtec1995)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is the d16y series block (96-00).</TD></TR></TABLE>
[moe sizlak] whaaaa? [/moe]
I haven't heard of this problem. Any links or further info? What causes it, what are the symptoms and fixes?
[moe sizlak] whaaaa? [/moe]
I haven't heard of this problem. Any links or further info? What causes it, what are the symptoms and fixes?
11-19-2004, 11:12 AM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (EX_AutoXer)
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I'm confused ...you said It's the D16 series ...which is what I'm refering to about the Y8 oil issue..... then you say you have not heard of any problems....Huh ?
I'm confused ...you said It's the D16 series ...which is what I'm refering to about the Y8 oil issue..... then you say you have not heard of any problems....Huh ?
11-19-2004, 11:38 AM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (alotawatts)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alotawatts »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">EX_AutoXer -
I'm confused ...you said It's the D16 series</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was just quoting sohcvtek1995. I haven't heard of this problem.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99CivicExCoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i experienced this problem and ran into a lot of people who did also when i was asking around for help, it sucks...alot</TD></TR></TABLE>
So what exactly happened? What was the cause and solution?
I'm confused ...you said It's the D16 series</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was just quoting sohcvtek1995. I haven't heard of this problem.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99CivicExCoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i experienced this problem and ran into a lot of people who did also when i was asking around for help, it sucks...alot</TD></TR></TABLE>
So what exactly happened? What was the cause and solution?
11-19-2004, 11:53 AM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (EX_AutoXer)
the motor consumes oil. With out burning it or leaking. I have blown one y8, and my friend lost a y7, and my other friend is having the same problem with his y5. The rods spin bearings.
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11-19-2004, 12:02 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (sohcvtec1995)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the motor consumes oil. With out burning it or leaking. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I see. Mine has always gone down a 1/2 quart between oil changes, and just figured it's normal. So this isn't something that happens going around turns or something (I was thinking a sloshing problem in the sump), but oil is slowly consumed, it's not noticed, then the motor can blow due to no oil?
If that's the case what does it have to do with the #4 cyl? I guess that's where I was getting confused. If your motor is doing this, will it show on a comp test, or is the only way to find out is monitoring oil levels?
I see. Mine has always gone down a 1/2 quart between oil changes, and just figured it's normal. So this isn't something that happens going around turns or something (I was thinking a sloshing problem in the sump), but oil is slowly consumed, it's not noticed, then the motor can blow due to no oil?
If that's the case what does it have to do with the #4 cyl? I guess that's where I was getting confused. If your motor is doing this, will it show on a comp test, or is the only way to find out is monitoring oil levels?
11-19-2004, 12:38 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (alotawatts)
11-19-2004, 12:39 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (EX_AutoXer)
Not to sure on Why it is number 4. Believe mine was 2 or 3, cant really remember it was like 3 years ago. But i do remeber i replaced the bearing but honda has them color coded, and it was spun so bad that i could not tell the color. Basically the top bearing spun together with the bottom one, an the two combined where the size of a quarter after it was flatened by a train.
11-19-2004, 12:51 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (sohcvtec1995)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the motor consumes oil. With out burning it or leaking. I have blown one y8, and my friend lost a y7, and my other friend is having the same problem with his y5. The rods spin bearings.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Please explain how the motor consumes oil without burning or leaking it, because that is flat out bullshit. Tell me, where do you think it's disappearing to?
Please explain how the motor consumes oil without burning or leaking it, because that is flat out bullshit. Tell me, where do you think it's disappearing to?
11-19-2004, 12:58 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Please explain how the motor consumes oil without burning or leaking it, because that is flat out bullshit. Tell me, where do you think it's disappearing to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was thinking that he meant not noticably smoking. I know mine can 'puff' sometimes when hitting VTEC hard into a corner. I know it burns some in the high revs, but it's not noticeable.
It sounds like nobody is sure why this is happening. I've got 110K on my motor and everything is just fine so far. I'd like to know the conditions / maintenance / milage etc when this happens. I'm going to search around sohc forums a bit more.
Please explain how the motor consumes oil without burning or leaking it, because that is flat out bullshit. Tell me, where do you think it's disappearing to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was thinking that he meant not noticably smoking. I know mine can 'puff' sometimes when hitting VTEC hard into a corner. I know it burns some in the high revs, but it's not noticeable.
It sounds like nobody is sure why this is happening. I've got 110K on my motor and everything is just fine so far. I'd like to know the conditions / maintenance / milage etc when this happens. I'm going to search around sohc forums a bit more.
11-19-2004, 01:11 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Please explain how the motor consumes oil without burning or leaking it, because that is flat out bullshit. Tell me, where do you think it's disappearing to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well seeing that i did not design the motor, i have no idea where the oil goes. i just know that whereever it goes it is blowing up motors.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX_AutoXer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I was thinking that he meant not noticably smoking. I know mine can 'puff' sometimes when hitting VTEC hard into a corner. I know it burns some in the high revs, but it's not noticeable.
It sounds like nobody is sure why this is happening. I've got 110K on my motor and everything is just fine so far. I'd like to know the conditions / maintenance / milage etc when this happens. I'm going to search around sohc forums a bit more.
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That could be what it is. That it is burniong it slowly.
Please explain how the motor consumes oil without burning or leaking it, because that is flat out bullshit. Tell me, where do you think it's disappearing to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well seeing that i did not design the motor, i have no idea where the oil goes. i just know that whereever it goes it is blowing up motors.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EX_AutoXer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I was thinking that he meant not noticably smoking. I know mine can 'puff' sometimes when hitting VTEC hard into a corner. I know it burns some in the high revs, but it's not noticeable.
It sounds like nobody is sure why this is happening. I've got 110K on my motor and everything is just fine so far. I'd like to know the conditions / maintenance / milage etc when this happens. I'm going to search around sohc forums a bit more.
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That could be what it is. That it is burniong it slowly.
11-19-2004, 01:15 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (EX_AutoXer)
Engines can be expected to burn a little oil after 100,000 miles whether it's a Y8, Z6, B7. My Y8 doesn't burn any oil, but my D15B2 burns about a quart of oil every tank of gas. That's becuase it has 225,000 miles.
11-19-2004, 01:17 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (sohcvtec1995)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well seeing that i did not design the motor, i have no idea where the oil goes. i just know that whereever it goes it is blowing up motors. </TD></TR></TABLE>
So you think it's evaporating into thin air or what? It's not blowing up your motors.
Well seeing that i did not design the motor, i have no idea where the oil goes. i just know that whereever it goes it is blowing up motors. </TD></TR></TABLE>
So you think it's evaporating into thin air or what? It's not blowing up your motors.
11-19-2004, 01:17 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Engines can be expected to burn a little oil after 100,000 miles whether it's a Y8, Z6, B7. My Y8 doesn't burn any oil, but my D15B2 burns about a quart of oil every tank of gas. That's becuase it has 225,000 miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>
my y8 had 84,000 miles on it
my y8 had 84,000 miles on it
11-19-2004, 01:30 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So you think it's evaporating into thin air or what? It's not blowing up your motors.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It has to be going somewhere. I just know that if you check your oil one day it will be fine, but then the next day if you check it it will be a quart or 2 low. So of course you would add some. But then you can check it again and it will be a quart over.
So you think it's evaporating into thin air or what? It's not blowing up your motors.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It has to be going somewhere. I just know that if you check your oil one day it will be fine, but then the next day if you check it it will be a quart or 2 low. So of course you would add some. But then you can check it again and it will be a quart over.
11-19-2004, 01:31 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (sohcvtec1995)
If the engine has been driven hard or not maintanenced like it should it wouldn't be abnormal to be burning a little oil at 84,000 miles.
11-19-2004, 01:33 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (sohcvtec1995)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It has to be going somewhere. I just know that if you check your oil one day it will be fine, but then the next day if you check it it will be a quart or 2 low. So of course you would add some. But then you can check it again and it will be a quart over.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So your burning up a quart or two every day!!??!?!?
You have some serious problems and you can't blame that on the fact that you have a Y8. Something is seriously wrong with your car. My Y8 is NEVER down any oil at all. Stays perfectly full between every 3000 mile oil change.
It has to be going somewhere. I just know that if you check your oil one day it will be fine, but then the next day if you check it it will be a quart or 2 low. So of course you would add some. But then you can check it again and it will be a quart over.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So your burning up a quart or two every day!!??!?!?
You have some serious problems and you can't blame that on the fact that you have a Y8. Something is seriously wrong with your car. My Y8 is NEVER down any oil at all. Stays perfectly full between every 3000 mile oil change.
11-19-2004, 01:40 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the engine has been driven hard or not maintanenced like it should it wouldn't be abnormal to be burning a little oil at 84,000 miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was the second owner, and the previous owner had records of everything, as far oil changes and regular maint. Also The car was not driven hard when i recieved it, just lowered, I,E and a ss.
I was the second owner, and the previous owner had records of everything, as far oil changes and regular maint. Also The car was not driven hard when i recieved it, just lowered, I,E and a ss.
11-19-2004, 01:44 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
So your burning up a quart or two every day!!??!?!?
You have some serious problems and you can't blame that on the fact that you have a Y8. Something is seriously wrong with your car. My Y8 is NEVER down any oil at all. Stays perfectly full between every 3000 mile oil change.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Seeing that i said my OLD car had this problem. And if you read what i said then you would understand it a bit better.I didnt say it was burning oil. Basically it was hideing it somewhere.
So your burning up a quart or two every day!!??!?!?
You have some serious problems and you can't blame that on the fact that you have a Y8. Something is seriously wrong with your car. My Y8 is NEVER down any oil at all. Stays perfectly full between every 3000 mile oil change.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Seeing that i said my OLD car had this problem. And if you read what i said then you would understand it a bit better.I didnt say it was burning oil. Basically it was hideing it somewhere.
11-19-2004, 01:48 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (sohcvtec1995)
y8's in general just have bad oiling, the oil pumps are in general usually crap and dont get oil properly (partly the cranks fault also having bad oilage passages) to the bearings imparticular the #4, everytime out of the dozens ive seen y8s crap out its always always ALWAYS #4
11-19-2004, 02:06 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (sohcvtec1995)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sohcvtec1995 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Seeing that i said my OLD car had this problem. And if you read what i said then you would understand it a bit better.I didnt say it was burning oil. Basically it was hideing it somewhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You never mentioned in that particular post what car you were talking about. Engines don't "hide" oil. It sounds to me like you don't know how to check your oil.
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Whats up man....you can find a quite few intelligent people on this board. You just have to search through all the bullshit.
Seeing that i said my OLD car had this problem. And if you read what i said then you would understand it a bit better.I didnt say it was burning oil. Basically it was hideing it somewhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You never mentioned in that particular post what car you were talking about. Engines don't "hide" oil. It sounds to me like you don't know how to check your oil.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">RYAN!!! WADDDUPPPP!! haha your the first person that has a brain ive seen on here</TD></TR></TABLE>
Whats up man....you can find a quite few intelligent people on this board. You just have to search through all the bullshit.
11-19-2004, 02:27 PM
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Re: Y8 Oil starvation ? (hondapimp69)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondapimp69 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">y8's in general just have bad oiling, the oil pumps are in general usually crap and dont get oil properly (partly the cranks fault also having bad oilage passages) to the bearings imparticular the #4, everytime out of the dozens ive seen y8s crap out its always always ALWAYS #4</TD></TR></TABLE>
Finally, this is the info I've been looking for. I was beginning to think the whole thing was BS, and that people just didn't know how to check oil or maintain their motors. Although, the reason I was posting to this thread at all is this is the first I've heard of it; I'm suprized this hasn't come up before. Just wanted to get to the bottom of this.
Finally, this is the info I've been looking for. I was beginning to think the whole thing was BS, and that people just didn't know how to check oil or maintain their motors. Although, the reason I was posting to this thread at all is this is the first I've heard of it; I'm suprized this hasn't come up before. Just wanted to get to the bottom of this.