Help: After F22A6 Timing Belt/Valve Job ... Running real rough with racket
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Help: After F22A6 Timing Belt/Valve Job ... Running real rough with racket
92 EX F22A6 MT
I'm a noob. Can this condition possibly be normal with just a timing adjustment required, or does it sound bad? Anything easy I can double check?
Read extensively enough here and elsewhere to feel confident. Now not so sure.
I was doing Timing Belt, Head Gasket, and Oil Pan Gasket. I was dissassembling/checking this out over several weeks. Took the head into a machine shop for cleaning, resurfacing, and a valve job. Put it all back together this weekend.
1) Everything went back together well, everything torqued right, and all tubes/connectors/grounds accounted for.
2) Made my timing scribe on the dizzy housing and made sure I didn't 180 degree the dizzy.
3) Was reasonably confident in the valve adjustment for my first time (.010 in, 012 ex) in order 1, 3, 4, 2 on the 180 degree crank rotations.
4) Rechecked my timing marks after the two full crank rotations for the valve adjustment. Maybe 1 degree left of center on the front balance shaft mark if anything.
Felt pretty good and would crank it up to see if the timing was off.
Was really running rough with some racket that was scarier than I was prepared for and (unrelatedly I presume) the condensor fan seems to run even with the AC off (I think this is not supposed to be). Ran it for 1 minute or so to get it back out of my garage and shut it off. Was getting some smoke from around the exhaust manifold area. Cranked it up one more time 10-15 mins later and ran same way for a few seconds and then shut it down. Didn't get smoke this time but might not have ran it long enough.
Can this possibly be normal and I just need to let the ECU relearn the timing or need to adjust the dizzy to get the timing right? Could I have done this crappy a job with the valve adjustment?
The way it's running I'm afraid I screwed up something bad but I'm not sure what that would be.
Any ideas?
Modified by waciii at 5:09 PM 10/12/2008
I'm a noob. Can this condition possibly be normal with just a timing adjustment required, or does it sound bad? Anything easy I can double check?
Read extensively enough here and elsewhere to feel confident. Now not so sure.
I was doing Timing Belt, Head Gasket, and Oil Pan Gasket. I was dissassembling/checking this out over several weeks. Took the head into a machine shop for cleaning, resurfacing, and a valve job. Put it all back together this weekend.
1) Everything went back together well, everything torqued right, and all tubes/connectors/grounds accounted for.
2) Made my timing scribe on the dizzy housing and made sure I didn't 180 degree the dizzy.
3) Was reasonably confident in the valve adjustment for my first time (.010 in, 012 ex) in order 1, 3, 4, 2 on the 180 degree crank rotations.
4) Rechecked my timing marks after the two full crank rotations for the valve adjustment. Maybe 1 degree left of center on the front balance shaft mark if anything.
Felt pretty good and would crank it up to see if the timing was off.
Was really running rough with some racket that was scarier than I was prepared for and (unrelatedly I presume) the condensor fan seems to run even with the AC off (I think this is not supposed to be). Ran it for 1 minute or so to get it back out of my garage and shut it off. Was getting some smoke from around the exhaust manifold area. Cranked it up one more time 10-15 mins later and ran same way for a few seconds and then shut it down. Didn't get smoke this time but might not have ran it long enough.
Can this possibly be normal and I just need to let the ECU relearn the timing or need to adjust the dizzy to get the timing right? Could I have done this crappy a job with the valve adjustment?
The way it's running I'm afraid I screwed up something bad but I'm not sure what that would be.
Any ideas?
Modified by waciii at 5:09 PM 10/12/2008
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Re: Help: After F22A6 Timing Belt/Valve Job ... Running real rough with racket (sirtef9)
Firing order is correct.
Matches GhostAccord's pic for a 96 which was the same as mine: http://i133.photobucket.com/al...2.jpg
Sorry for the dumb question guys but I just don't have a lot of experience to judge where I'm at now.
Anyone able to help me understand the possibilities here?
Matches GhostAccord's pic for a 96 which was the same as mine: http://i133.photobucket.com/al...2.jpg
Sorry for the dumb question guys but I just don't have a lot of experience to judge where I'm at now.
Anyone able to help me understand the possibilities here?
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Re: Help: After F22A6 Timing Belt/Valve Job ... Running real rough with racket (waciii)
Need to hook up a vacuum gauge and see how much vacuum you are pulling at idle and tap into the MAP sensor signal wire back to the computer and see how far away from ONE VOLT DC you are, the noise could be a bad valve adjustment, was it performed with the engine hot or cold, the vacuum reading and MAP voltage will tell the story.
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