accordmatt

ghost appreciate all the help but lm about to give up. its right there but just wont stay cranked on too much fuel and pissing me off so l dunno

GhostAccord

Don't give up on her jsut yet. Check your VAFC wiring. I'm not a fan of them, but if you need it. You should make sure it's wired up and working properly.

accordmatt

its wired up and running each time l put the key in. so vafc is fine. and l double checked wires. got fuel set. so its either my timing is off or dizzy wiring. which both are big pains to deal with. ive done almost every wire combo lm comfortable with so......

GhostAccord

There really aren't that many legitimate combo's when it comes to wiring. I would look at the physical timing, it you have fuel, fire and a working EMS.

accordmatt

ok so it seems to be that the 4 wire connector goes to external coil. which is blk-grn-yel/grn-yel and the 2 wire connector goes to harness which is blue-blk/yel so this has to be my problem anyone know how this wires up to a obd2 accord and msd coil?

GhostAccord

No the 4 wire (C138) does not actually go to the External coil it goes to the distributor. The connector that goes to the external coil has 3 wires. The other 2 wire connector is C125.

3 wire connector (OEM external coil)
BLK/YEL - Coil (+) 12v power source
YEL - 12v power going out to ICM
GRN - Coil (-) goes out to ICM (distributor connector C138)

C138 (4 wires connected to the distributor)
BLK - CYPM (ECU C14)
YEL - CYPP (ECU C4
YEL/GRN - Ignition input from A20/ECU
GRN - Coil Ground

C125 (2 wires connected to distributor)
BLK/YEL - Connects to YEL 12v wire from coil
BLU - goes to RPM Output of ICM


This is exactly how I had my Accel 2pin coil hooked up to my Accord. Your H22 is colour coded the same as the external (F22B2) Accord distributor that I used.



Do you have spark?
How did you test for spark?

accordmatt

yea l have spark or it wouldnt have cranked about 5 or more times.

accordmatt

and thats how ive had it wired for awhile and still having some issue

accordmatt

for some reason with the wiring done this way lm getting 12v on both + n - side of coil with key turned

accordmatt

ok a td-60 dizzy is a jdm 92-95 obd1 would it work on my obd2 and pass emissions? also what about this dealing with crank sensors?

then the td-89u is a obd2 internal jdm h22 dizzy this would work for sure but has like 8 wires l think to my stock 5 wire on harness. how would this be wired up if l did get it?

GhostAccord

Do you have the TDC and CKP sensors down by the crank connected?

accordmatt

not from dizzy no

GhostAccord

But you have the ones on the oil pump housing (Crank) connected to the engine harness/ECU right!

accordmatt

correct

accordmatt

TD89U dizzy seems to be what l probally need but has 8 wires. anyone know how it would be wired?

accordmatt

this is dizzy lm ordering jdm 97-01 internal coil


this is my plug off my stock harness


stock harness 5 wires are
blk/yel
yel/grn
blue
blk
yel

how would l wire this up?

nus_dogg

It's weird cause your connector is different from the dizzy connector that you just ordered.

accordmatt

yea there are no h22 dizzy that will have that type of connector. so no matter what l have to wire it up. sucks having to stay obd2 ur lucky nuss

nus_dogg

Haha. Nah, rookie's luck.

accordmatt

does anyone have the female end plug for the above dizzy? its a jdm one

Fady Massoud

oh really i dont know how to thank you about this question and the answers from accordmatt.
i just got this probleme today and i think it s the ecu ground, anyway i will try to fix this tommorow mornning?
i change my engine from h22a4 to h22a type sh, it was working fine for 3 days then today just it decide to dont give any spark,
anyways thanks again about the questions and the answers

Alex Barragan

1996accord

so i saw the wiring comment up there but what about the external coil? its 2 wires going to it what are those 2 wires?