urafag

hi all once again.

i got a quick question, i am new to accords so here it goes.
the car has an aftermarket alarm
sometimes it does not start. say it would start in the morning , i would drive to the store, turn it off, then it would not start. i would try again in 10 minutes and it starts again.

I v been told it could be the main relay, i have replaced the starter.

Regards,
ura[pejorative]

dtapia

could be a igniter also.
a main relay will not start in hot conditions and will after a cool down if the in car temp is cool

TOO MUCH TORQUE

main realy

urafag

today I was stuck again in the mall for 2 hours.

now i took out the main relay.

the car keeps turning but does not start.

one question though.

generally when the main relay is the problem, the car is supposed to turn or no? because the problem I had was that the engine was NOT turning at all in the first place. now that the relay is out the car turns, but does no start if the main relay is the problem the car wudnot turn at all right?

maybe its the ignition plug?


edit: i have read some DIY and troubleshoot articles, i figured that the ECU should be sending a code for me to be read. the check engine light does not come on at all, i figured it has been tampered with, is there a DIY on how to screw the bulb of the light back on? i figure i would have to disassemble the dash


Modified by urafag at 2:56 PM 9/6/2008

dtapia

yes the engine will still crank but no fuel will be supplied if it is bad. a bad main relay will not code up nor will a igniter nor will a coil.a igniter will code up if it is in a shorted out mode.

urafag

alright, then it is NOT the main relay, because the engine DOES NOT crank......its weird. you know when the car is in D and u try to start it? that is exactly how it is..... i m thinking faulty wiring in the alarm?
any thoughts?

Infinityzer050

Can you hear the fuel pump when you prime it? You may need a new pump

dtapia

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ura[pejorative &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">]alright, then it is NOT the main relay, because the engine DOES NOT crank......its weird. you know when the car is in D and u try to start it? that is exactly how it is..... i m thinking faulty wiring in the alarm?
any thoughts?</TD></TR></TABLE>
ok you just informed us the engine does not crank now ?

TOAB

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Infinityzer050 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you hear the fuel pump when you prime it? You may need a new pump</TD></TR></TABLE>That has nothing to do with it not cranking.

As long as you replaced your starter with a new or refurb I'd start checking over anything else electrical. Is it pretty hot when it fails to start, or will it do this right off the bat on a cold morning?
Car is getting power from the battery when you key it to the ON position?

urafag

yes car was not cranking from the beginning when this happens.

No well it would start fine then i would drive say 15 kms , stop, then it would not start. i would try like 10 times it would start again, or i would have to wait like one hour and try cranking multiple times during that hour without success.

yes the lights light up nicely, the car is getting power when key is in ON position. does not feel like it is lack of power.

I ended up buying a main relay, so far it is starting OK. i only driven it once though.


i replaced starter before and it was still doing it, so i put my old one back and returned the new one. ( money waste )
I am still puzzled. I will report next time it happens and the conditions of it happening


edit: it also seems like the check engine light bulb was unscrewed.....


Modified by urafag at 6:37 PM 9/7/2008

dtapia

ok so no it does not crank so their for it will not start correct ?
if you have a no start condition as in no cranking over of the engine then we need to confirm you are getting a signal from the ignition switch at the starter when cranking.
post your results

Infinityzer050

[QUOTE=TOAB]That has nothing to do with it not cranking.
/QUOTE]

Ah sorry, Misread the thread (doh)