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well with little information I have I know the bottom is is screwed.
I haven't read yet with having a supercharger on full boast will do to a motor, let alone know why someone would do that. But like I said before I was a girl and that says a lot.
apperantly she didn't know anything about the controls turned it all the way up and was driving around like that.
She got another swap and someone offered her money for her old busted motor so that tells me it may still have some use to it. I got for basically free after I sell the tranny that it came with. So the only thing I'm time. Plus I get to learn all about what you just typed because I had no idea.
obd-1 to 2 swap isn't that hard right??

you just messed up my day a little bit </TD></TR></TABLE>

No real controls to "turn up" a blower. It's mostly based on the pulley size you're running. More than likely, the car wasn't tuned correctly and that's why it blew up.

 

blew up possibly by spinning a rod or could it be something easier??


if all else fails atleast I have a good head

or just supercharg the b16

 

Find a GSR bottom end if you can...then combine with your B16 head and blower. A blown poor man's ITR will scoot!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_ROCKS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">blew up possibly by spinning a rod or could it be something easier??


if all else fails atleast I have a good head

or just supercharg the b16</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have a nice paper weight then. Hopefully the head is still good, but dont make that call on your own, take it off and have a machine shop tear it down and inspect it.

Its also not easy as just slapping the supercharger on something else and driving it. Be prepared to spend the necessary amount of $ to get it running the way it should and be installed the way it should (with whatever engine u plan on using) or else you'll end up with 2 paper wieghts.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_ROCKS &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well with little information I have I know the bottom is is screwed.
I haven't read yet with having a supercharger on full boast will do to a motor, let alone know why someone would do that. But like I said before I was a girl and that says a lot.
apperantly she didn't know anything about the controls turned it all the way up and was driving around like that.
She got another swap and someone offered her money for her old busted motor so that tells me it may still have some use to it. I got for basically free after I sell the tranny that it came with. So the only thing I'm time. Plus I get to learn all about what you just typed because I had no idea.
obd-1 to 2 swap isn't that hard right??

you just messed up my day a little bit </TD></TR></TABLE>

My my my.......

 

Lol, make sure you check the blades out on the JRSC too. I actually have a D-series JRSC sitting in my garage that I got for basically free because the previous owner over-spun the blower resulting in the high temp coating flaking off and the blades becoming severely scored. Makes a nice paperweight though .

I kinda wish they'd made a CARB legal JRSC for the B17a1...I know the B16/B18c-R blower will bolt right up as the B17a1 has the same head casting, but unfortunately...not CARB legal

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1989CivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lol, make sure you check the blades out on the JRSC too. I actually have a D-series JRSC sitting in my garage that I got for basically free because the previous owner over-spun the blower resulting in the high temp coating flaking off and the blades becoming severely scored. Makes a nice paperweight though .

I kinda wish they'd made a CARB legal JRSC for the B17a1...I know the B16/B18c-R blower will bolt right up as the B17a1 has the same head casting, but unfortunately...not CARB legal </TD></TR></TABLE>
do you have to lubricate them at all?

 

The blades themselves? No.

The blower gears are lubricated by supercharger oil that shouldn't need to be changed often. If need be though, I hear GM supercharger oil is the way to go .

The reason why the coating flakes off is because literally, when you overspin a blower, you generate so much heat that the blower fins begin to expand beyond their intended clearances resulting in metal-on-metal contact (i.e. resulting in scored fins), and flaking coating. Under normal operating conditions though, I don't think the coating should flake off by itself.

Also, if you run the breather hose from the VC to the intake, I think all of that waste oil would get sucked into the blower anyways

 

Alright guys, I know there is an exhaust thread but school me on which catback to get for my car. I'm finally going to be ditching the Buddy Club Spec II. Way too loud for the streets and I'll definitely get popped when I smash mad vtec, yo (my friend told me that he could hear me cruising along the 101...a little more than a mile away from his house haha).

Looking at the Invidia catback for the EF9, but also considering the Apexi WSII and HKS. A low deep tone is a must and I'll be running a cat + aftermarket header. What would EF people choose and why? Sound level really isn't much of an issue as I doubt anything out there that isn't a small N1 muffler will be nearly as loud as the Spec II.

 

I say stay away from HKS. In my opinion its build quality and materials are crap. Go with a full stainless system if u can. I like my greddy sp2. Not too loud at all and has big enough piping to suit a mild B series. Only thing i dont like is the big tip, which i hope to get around to changing sometime soon. im also running mine without a cat but even with one, it sounded pretty much the same. If u dont like the bling of the muffler you could always flat black it.

Apexi ws2 is nice too. A friend has it and it has the same mellow tone as the sp2, but with smaller and non stainless piping. It also has a stupid flange right where the sway bar is on an EF, which makes it rub on the bar...thats an easy fix though, but you really shouldnt have to in the first place.

 

Dang, that is the first time I've heard anything bad about the build quality of the HKS, but to be honest I wasn't really too keen on purchasing one anyways (too much about it being a restrictive exhaust).

I was always under the impression that you had a Tanabe catback . As for the Apexi WSII, does the flange interfere with say the ST 22mm rear sway (bar that I'm currently running)?

Maybe a RS*R or Greddy would suit my car nicely...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1989CivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dang, that is the first time I've heard anything bad about the build quality of the HKS, but to be honest I wasn't really too keen on purchasing one anyways (too much about it being a restrictive exhaust).

I was always under the impression that you had a Tanabe catback . As for the Apexi WSII, does the flange interfere with say the ST 22mm rear sway (bar that I'm currently running)?

Maybe a RS*R or Greddy would suit my car nicely...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea, ive seen more than a few crack in various places, but mostly at the entrance to the muffler. Also, the muffler itself develops cracks/holes. In addition, piping diameter is waaay too small.

haha, no tanabe here. The apexi flange interferes with the stock bar so i would assume it would do it with the st. As with most exhausts that have larger piping than stock, under hard cornering the bar may come into contact with the piping. just wrap some rubber hose around the bar and you wont hear anything.

I dont know anyone with an RSR so i have no opinion on that one.


Modified by fourthgenhatchB17 at 9:23 PM 8/27/2008

 

i had the rs*r exmag with my ST 22mm sway bar and it rubbed like hell...

 

Has anyone tried the Invidia EF9 catback, and did it rub on the rear sway?

I should rephrase my exhaust question to: Which exhausts don't interfere with a 22mm rear sway bar?



Edit: After searching around for about 20 minutes or so and reading every exhaust thread I could find...it would seem that people are more interested in an exhaust that doesn't look "rice" as opposed to a functional exhaust that will clear a decently sized sway bar . Those same people probably removed the sway bars from their cars to fit their "non-rice" exhausts. lol.


Modified by 1989CivicSi at 12:18 AM 8/28/2008

 

Here's my sp2 courtesy of Vega.

 

I have a magnaflow muffler and the 22 mm ST sway bar and it rubber pretty violently until I bent the hangers up a few mm.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's my sp2 courtesy of Vega.

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I always wanted that exhaust...looks like I am selling my car soon so that will never happen. There may be a CRX in my future though.

 

whats the size of the pipe on that sp2?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1989CivicSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has anyone tried the Invidia EF9 catback, and did it rub on the rear sway?
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The answer is yes! It does rub but it isnt impossible to fix. I have to adjust the hangers or space the sway bar down a tad. Its annoying but not unbearable.

This is with the invidia EF9 Catback with ST rear sway bar.

 

Funny i have the thermal 3" and st sway no problem.

 

I run the SP2 also... ive ran it on my hatch and now on my crx. Im pretty sure its 2.5inch piping. I Run strait 2.5inch piping from the header back with no cat and i love the way it sounds.. A cat may quiet it down a little bit. havent installed my sway bar yet, but it doesnt even look close to hitting the stock bar.

Only complaint is the huge rear tip. it fits the car well, but i think it just draws to much attention, id like to cut it off and weld on a regular tip, or even a nice bent tip like the toda exhausts come.

 

i have the rsr on my crx and it doesn't rub at all with my st rear bar.

 

Sold my hatch last nite....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UltimX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the rsr on my crx and it doesn't rub at all with my st rear bar.</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm looking to get the ST front and rear - what are your opinions on it? Is it worth upgrading to?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RockinthEFhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm looking to get the ST front and rear - what are your opinions on it? Is it worth upgrading to?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't run the front ST bar. Ideally, you want the smallest possible bar up front or no bar at all. Tyson often sells hf front say bars. The ST rear bar will be a great upgrade.

 

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I wouldn't run the front ST bar. Ideally, you want the smallest possible bar up front or no bar at all. Tyson often sells hf front say bars. The ST rear bar will be a great upgrade. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends, i think the front st adds stability to the car.