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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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I wouldn't trade. But that's just me. I've gotten offers to trade mine for a real ITR. But I still won't do it.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Dope EG. Tough choice on the K swap though.
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Its def k worthy!
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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thanks .. yeah i am not really sure what to do .. prolly keep it .. i would feel like such a a$$ puttin a k20 in that ..lol maybe il just buy another chasis
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Thats one of the cleanest black hatches Ive seen. You cant get a better chassis than that!! Im loving the NRs
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Old Apr 27, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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yeah idunno ..lol ... i wanna see some more rhd's
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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Is that setup the best for the EH2/EH3? Its like everyone says FTW on it lol. Id like to invest in suspension because its a very important part of the whole driving experience and everyone knows that. Im clueless when it comes to which one I should pick. I dont really know whats out there. So what are the top setups that people here have liked? Especially ones that are good for daily driving? Thank you guys
Other than my rear ride height issue, i am amazed with the Spoon N1 suspension i'm running now. i got an alignment done over the weekend and set it up for an upcoming track-day next month. went with -2.5* front, -2.0* rear and 0 toe, car corners so well, suspension has nearly zero body roll and i don't have a rear sway bar on at the moment.

rates are pretty fricken high (16K front, 14K rear), but my good, the damping is so well matched that it feels only a hair more firm than my previous Tein's at 8K,6K...i'm actually impressed with this japanese suspension.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:09 AM
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the reason it only feels a hair softer is because the shocks are probably poorly matched to the springs, IMO. I have no experience with spoon and haven't seen them on the shock dyno but Id think its safe to assume they are too expensive for what you get. Just my .o2
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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the reason it only feels a hair softer is because the shocks are probably poorly matched to the springs, IMO. I have no experience with spoon and haven't seen them on the shock dyno but Id think its safe to assume they are too expensive for what you get. Just my .o2
My thoughts exactly, thats why I ask if the koni yellows/ground controls setup is the best for a daily driven car. How expensive is it, anyone know? Id also like to get something adjustable bc I dont want to drive around bouncing over bumps lol. Mainly daily! Are the koni/gc an adjustable setup? Sorry for the bombardment of questions!
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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the reason it only feels a hair softer is because the shocks are probably poorly matched to the springs, IMO. I have no experience with spoon and haven't seen them on the shock dyno but Id think its safe to assume they are too expensive for what you get. Just my .o2
That is a likely possibility with the Tein's that i had, especially considering how old they were as well (Tein HA). However, i would still take those any day over those garbage Taiwan-made-you-get-what-you-pay-for coilover kits that everyone loves cuz they believe that a high spring rate is full of win.

Unfortunately, i wasn't able to find a shock dyno locally and i don't want to send my 'too expensive for what you get' shock out to someone in another country. just my 2 cents as well
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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My thoughts exactly, thats why I ask if the koni yellows/ground controls setup is the best for a daily driven car. How expensive is it, anyone know? Id also like to get something adjustable bc I dont want to drive around bouncing over bumps lol. Mainly daily! Are the koni/gc an adjustable setup? Sorry for the bombardment of questions!
is your car going to be strictly a daily driver and not see any track? if that is the case, i would just get a set of H&R springs, koni yellow, and call it a day.

i'm not sure how much the GC combo is in your area, but over here, it's just over 1G.

when you say adjustable, what are you referring to? height, damping, preload? let us know what you want out of your car
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Oh I understand completely! HBK: Adjustablility is rather a diluted term. Koni's are infinitely adjustable b/c they have a twist dial on the top...
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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HBK - here's a link of an HT sponsor if you're curious about pricing for the combo...

http://www.weaksauceparts.com/store/...roductid=18820
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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is your car going to be strictly a daily driver and not see any track? if that is the case, i would just get a set of H&R springs, koni yellow, and call it a day.

i'm not sure how much the GC combo is in your area, but over here, it's just over 1G.

when you say adjustable, what are you referring to? height, damping, preload? let us know what you want out of your car
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Oh I understand completely! HBK: Adjustablility is rather a diluted term. Koni's are infinitely adjustable b/c they have a twist dial on the top...
What does the dial adjust? Dampness?

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HBK - here's a link of an HT sponsor if you're curious about pricing for the combo...

http://www.weaksauceparts.com/store/...roductid=18820
Ah thank you guys so much. Now that light has been shed into the matter, I will have a better idea when I dive into suspension. From my unexperienced eyes I believe I have stock struts and ebay springs(theyre green lol, its gotta be ebay). Ride is nice and its kinda stiff but mushy at braking but yeah decent for a dd.

My car will be mainly a daily drive but I want to hit up the track someday but considering the lack of them in Massachusetts, I might go very few times if at all. I dont know what preloading is lol. Id like to be able to adjust height and maybe dampness. All I want is to have a car that feels newer lol, 5th gens are already old in automotive terms and they don't feel like the newer cars, at least not on a stock suspension. Mines the only civic I've been on haha. No local honda friends ftl.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:41 AM
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Look into what the Road Race Autox forum guys do. They know whats up, thats where I started to learn suspension setup. After that my friend Brandon really taught me a lot. There are lots of ways to do it.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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What does the dial adjust? Dampness?

Ah thank you guys so much. Now that light has been shed into the matter, I will have a better idea when I dive into suspension. From my unexperienced eyes I believe I have stock struts and ebay springs(theyre green lol, its gotta be ebay). Ride is nice and its kinda stiff but mushy at braking but yeah decent for a dd.

My car will be mainly a daily drive but I want to hit up the track someday but considering the lack of them in Massachusetts, I might go very few times if at all. I dont know what preloading is lol. Id like to be able to adjust height and maybe dampness. All I want is to have a car that feels newer lol, 5th gens are already old in automotive terms and they don't feel like the newer cars, at least not on a stock suspension. Mines the only civic I've been on haha. No local honda friends ftl.
i'm not 100% sure, but i believe the dial adjusts rebound damping only (not compression damping).

Preload is when you can put more load on the spring itself without changing vehicle height. more preload generally means a ramped up spring rate or firmer ride and lessens sag (not always a good thing depending on your suspension use).

Preloading your suspension is also a step that you should take when installing suspension on your car (ie: use a jack on the lca to nearly lift the car off the jack stands before you tighten down the bolts).

if your car is feeling old, new coilovers and a full bushing kit will make your car feel new again.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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Nice. I really want to do suspension now lol. Too bad theres more important stuff to be done.
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Nice. I really want to do suspension now lol. Too bad theres more important stuff to be done.
what's more important than a civic that handles well? lol!
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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what kind of fog lights are those?
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:05 PM
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i gotta go pick up my new coils soon

i got koni race shocks and g/c 550 f 400 r and ext tophats!

anyone else use that setup?
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 01:26 PM
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i would just get a set of H&R springs, koni yellow, and call it a day.
That's what I have, the H&R Races and Koni Yellows. I ride in a really bumpy town and it's a lot nicer than my old stock shock + S-tech combo I have my yellows set on 180° (half a turn) for daily driving. Anything over 360° of adjustment is pure business, and the max is 720°. These shocks are also height adjustable (via circlips/c-clips), I have mine on the stock setting (middle notch) but if I wanted to slam it I could.

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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Nice, I know to take your word for it. You do tasteful mods while keeping it stockish and we both share the same vision. Thats more than likely what I'll end up getting. H&R+koni yellows!
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Old Apr 28, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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^can't go wrong with that combo
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