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Sep 28, 2011 | 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SLOENUF

thats where i have been looking. thats why i figured with a good tune i should be right where i wanna be. figure ill do the rod bolts as extra security.

you can def learn a LOT from that thread.

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my problem was, my wastegate spring was 15 psi spring lowest and i made the mistake to go there with a stock map sensor. so the tune was way off. because i wasnt able to go more than ~11 psi on the map. i could of made 350 easy.

yeah its funny how much a map sensor will hold you back. local guy i know has a rod/piston bottom and never bothered to get a bigger map so he didnt make anywhere near what his bottom end was capable of holding.

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I got the setup from a friend and he was the one that got it tune. he said it made 250 on 10 psi but when i swap everything into my car and had a working boost gauge, it was only reading 6psi. i never touched the boost controller the entire time we did the swap and the only way you can turn it up or down with that boost controller was with an hex key. Also my friend got it tune with stock piping by DNR.

Im not 100 percent sure if thats what it really made im just going with what he told me.

I havent got it tune yet because i wanna upgrade piping and upgrade turbo first. Also looking to do a mild build next year so i might as well just wait until everything is done and get it tune all at once. car drives fine and pulls good so imma just wait it out.

if it's only truly on 6 pounds and its a smaller turbo, then that makes perfect sense why the numbers would seem low. get those things straightened out and you should put down some very nice numbers

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Yeah i see ppl making like 300 on 11 psi then i see ppl who make 300 on 22psi... alot of times its all about the tune, a great tune can make or break your numbers. I have seen bigger numbers on lower boost because the time spent on a proper tune was there.

exactly!

Sep 28, 2011 | 10:03 PM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

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if it's only truly on 6 pounds and its a smaller turbo, then that makes perfect sense why the numbers would seem low. get those things straightened out and you should put down some very nice numbers

yea it was only boosting 6psi on a .50 trim turbo. Im going to be picking up a .57 trim turbonetic hopefully friday.

engine plans for next year are:

- rebuild head with type r internal or stock b16 internals.
- rebuild block with
- 84mm cp piston
- eagle rods
- acl race bearing
- arp rod bolt
- stock LS micro polish crank
- stock sleeve
- Upgrade to 2.5" piping from downpipe back
- Retune and shooting for 350hp.

plan for car next year.

- D2 or FFtype1
- blox LCA
- engine bay painted teal
- wire tuck
- mugen rep front lip
- spoon rep rear lip
- POSSIBLE NEW PAINT JOB
- POSSIBLE NEW WHEELS

Sep 28, 2011 | 10:09 PM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

sleeve'n the block is going to give you 84mm. you mean 81.5mm

Sep 28, 2011 | 10:54 PM

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sleeve'n the block is going to give you 84mm. you mean 81.5mm

yea i reread what i posted and it didnt sound right so i went and looked up the cp piston and its 81.5

Sep 29, 2011 | 07:17 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

stay away from blox control arms. the bushings are JUNK and WILL fall apart on you. i highly recommend you look into something better, unless you plan to put brand new bushings in as soon as you get them

Sep 29, 2011 | 07:34 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

i bought a set of BLOX LCAs and pressed out the bushings the energy ones i had wouldnt even fit in so i just bought a set of skunk2s

Sep 29, 2011 | 07:35 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

Also if you are picking between b16 and itr valve train i know that the ITR valves are forged one piece. I am running ITR valve train on a 600hp goal. with SuperTech springs and retainers

Sep 29, 2011 | 08:29 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

I had blox lca before, never had a problem but I do hear it goes bad a lot.

I had a b16 head before with type r internal and gsr cam on my b20v turbo and it was great so imma just do the same setup.

Sep 29, 2011 | 08:30 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

basically what i have on my b20v b16 with ITR valve train and skunk2 cams

Sep 29, 2011 | 08:39 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

New the import world....traded my bike for a 93 cb7. It's a good start as it has some work done to it. But the car needs work. I'll post picks soon.

Sep 29, 2011 | 09:14 PM

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looking forward to it.

Sep 29, 2011 | 09:22 PM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

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i bought a set of BLOX LCAs and pressed out the bushings the energy ones i had wouldnt even fit in so i just bought a set of skunk2s

i hear people order bushings from skunk2 to put in their blox control arms. but i also coulda sworn people put es bushings in as well. but i could be wrong on that one?

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I had blox lca before, never had a problem but I do hear it goes bad a lot.

I had a b16 head before with type r internal and gsr cam on my b20v turbo and it was great so imma just do the same setup.

you were one of the lucky ones. everyone once in a while i come across someone who actually didnt have problems, but 9 times out of 10, they destroy em in no time

Sep 29, 2011 | 11:36 PM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

I had a full set of energy suspension bushings and i couldn't get the LCA bushings to fit the blow

Sep 30, 2011 | 06:15 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

What do you guys think tranny wise for the ls. Go with a b16 or gsr?

Sep 30, 2011 | 06:58 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

personally, i like the gsr tranny. its shorter, but its not so short to where high way driving becomes annoying. i know a lot of people who have b16 tranny's and they hate highway driving. one option you could do is to put an ls 5th gear in it for cruising and gas saving. then you have the best of both worlds

Sep 30, 2011 | 07:44 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

i want to put a LS 5th in my turbo DA because my type-r will get garbo highway

Sep 30, 2011 | 08:18 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

I had a b16 and now have a gsr I personally like the gsr better. I daily my car and when had the b16 driving to work it was horrible and it killed my gas like crazy. B16 for track gsr for daily!!

Sep 30, 2011 | 08:24 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

b16 with ls 5th ftw

Sep 30, 2011 | 09:15 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

b16 with ls 5th if you got the money and want to go that route, if you want to just drop one in with no issue then gsr! FTW.

Starting my new job monday!

Sep 30, 2011 | 10:00 AM

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Re: BUILT NOT BOUGHT!

Yea I've read that about the b16. Pretty pricey to get the ls 5th done?

Sep 30, 2011 | 10:07 AM

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just all depends who does your work for you, if you know the right people you can probably have someone put a 5th gear in for you for a price that isnt too high, it would be the best bet for you, but it would be alot cheaper to just get a gsr transmission haha