phat00civic

I am looking at purchasing an 02 wideband sensor. I am mixed between Innovate and PLX in terms of brands. I will be using this on a D16, an ODBI, not ODBII ECU tuned on crome. Looking for some thoughts or ideas on what you think about these or others. In the past I never used one as I would bring it to a tuner and then that was it, so my experience in picking one for myself is that much harder. Thoughts?

vietjdmboi

ive had great success using the aem digital gauge one.

cibao2ner

the best would be the ngk afx...has the best o2 sensor...but sensor its expensive....then innovate mtxl is working good for me and uses same bosch sensor as aem and most other widebands...i got the mtxl for 170 on ebay..

Spawne32

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anything that uses NGK sensors, i go through bosch sensors like toilet paper

phat00civic

So would you say you have spent close to $300 on the bosh sensors + the kit? If so how long did it take you? I believe the NGK kit is like $280.

In terms of it going bad I am not too worried about it as I am using it for tune / make sure as I drive nothing is going bad. I plan on leaving in the original and running another bung for it. The car has been tuned so its more of insurance then anything else.

Spawne32

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Im on my 5th bosch sensor in about a year, at between 30-60 dollars a piece depending on whether or not i can get them at discount when i need them. I went through them about a month at a time when i was tuning the car, and the last two a few months on each.

phat00civic

Good to know. Where is it mounted? I heard if you mount it in the wrong spot it will become destroyed that much faster. I remember reading somewhere about it being mounted at 3:00 rather then 9:00 or 12:00, or something to that effect when looking at the manifold / downpipe.

Spawne32

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oem location in the downpipe

siregcivic

i use the innovative lc1 and i have tuned more then 16 cars with it with no problems whatsoever and i ran it in my personal car for 3 months with no problems and it still works

wolve

i've run the zeitronix unit with the bosch sensor since 2007 with no issues at all.

friend of mine have toasted his lc1 within 6months, now has a techedge and could'nt be happier

ashb82

aem look good but datalog like crap unless you have a aem ems.

joe b

Aem here and no problems . Original o2 sensor 5 years and counting ! No problems datalogging with hondata s300 .

sleepencivic

ngk afx with upgraded NTK sensor!! cant beat it for the price!

Gunmetal_B20_Hatch

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upgraded sensor?? please elaborate. I love my NGK AFX and would like to know if i can make it even better.

kyden

all the new ngk afx's come with the ntk sensor.

sleepencivic

they have a bosch style and the ntk sensor as an option

phat00civic

I am leaning towards the NGK although not sure of what benefits it has other then great quality.

Ryan@FRP

I have used AEM with great success.

93ls10.0

plx m300 here never had a problem also have a lc1 I haven't tried yet

phat00civic

Am I correct in thinking that most of you that run FI do not run a wideband, only when tuning? It seems the majority of those that have FI do not have one. Do you run a narrow band (light show) one then?

Spawne32

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I run a wideband 24/7 with my supercharged setup, and i use it for closeloop in ectune.