95gsr

I am going to be going turbo soon and I am cooking oil like crazy. The car has 117 k miles on it and I was wondering
what pistons I should get. I might as well replace the valves springs and retainers, or should i not? what else should
I do while the pistons are out and where can i get the best prices? what rods should i be looking at.

Thanks
Luis

bigTom

je flat-tops... 10:1... id go for crower rods or pauter... while its apart at least change the valves/valve springs and retainers

95gsr

+that is what i was thinking of doing the spring and valves. Where can I get these items at a good price? And what type of gains should i see even though there is no turbo installed yet. thanks
Luis
What vavles and spring should i do.

ArizonaTurbo

I am in the process of building my best friend's 1992 Civic Hatch w/ GSR motor right now! I decided to run 81.5mm JE 9.0:1 CR pistons and Eagle rods! This should be a pretty bad *** setup since I am building the turbo kit for it also!

pstreck

je's are nice if your gona run 10psi or more drop the compression ratio down a half point

ArizonaTurbo

I am running 9.0:1 CR pistons so I can have a little better response on the street, especially since I am running a pretty large, laggy turbo! Why would I want to run 8.5:1 CR pistons if I don't want to run more than 15-17 psi?????

dustin

I think he meant a half point from stock, to 9.5:1

9.0:1 is laggy enough on a torqueless 1.8L motor

Dustin

Zeus

You can do Eagle rods and Endyn RW pistons for WELL under $1k... and you can get them in 81.001mm for stock bore... or you can go the conventional route if you want conventional power. By the way... word is that the 9.?:1 compression RW's make more power across the board than the stock 10:1s do on a NA motor... hence, more off boost torque... Hate Endyn or not, take it or leave it...


[Modified by Zeus, 3:30 PM 9/18/2001]

dustin

I still think Larry at endyn is a good guy no matter what popular opinion is.

Either way wiseco makes the pistons and the design is proven. I thought the RW pistons only came overbore though.... I did not think you could get stock bore.

Dustin

Arturbo

Even tho Endyne may have mislead alot of people, the RW pistons work. I dont love him or hate him but I do know that the pistons and rods work period. Other than that I could care less about the guy.

art

95gsr

I plan on running low to mid 12's I think I am doing jg spring valves retainer. je piston 10:1, 9.5:1 (need help on , and crower rods.

liam821

I was running JE 9:1 on my d16z6. The bottom end sucked a$$..but with 18psi boost it was pretty awesome. I could run 15-18psi with 91 octane pump gas and stock ignition timing...ran very nice.

liam

Zeus

That was my point Art... They(RWs) seem to be the best thing out there right now by leaps and bounds... I'd rather eat crow and be first, than let my opinions of them put me in last... and I particularly like the fact the they are reportedly so detination resistant... got a set going in my 2000' ITR when I ever get around to bolting up a turbo...

Dustin, per Endyn last week, they now sell .001 over for "OE" bore...


[Modified by Zeus, 4:15 AM 9/19/2001]

newsense

hell yeah i plan on getting endyn-wiseco pistons as well....two of my boys built their motors with his parts and i was impressed

ArizonaTurbo

9.0:1 CR is still pretty repsponive compared to an 8.5:1 CR motor! Most factory turbocharged engines have at least 8.5:1 CR! The T3/T04E (.63 housing Stage III turbine & 57 trim .60 AR compressor) should still be able to have full boost @ 3700-4000 rpms! I don't know about you, but I never race with anything under 4000 rpms whether it be at the track or on the street! 9.5:1 CR will be VERY streetable and will give you very good turbo response, but you wil be limited at some point! Whereas, the 9.0:1 CR pistons will allow you to make more hp with more boost! I personally have 8.5:1 CR with a T3/T04E (.82 housing Stage III turbine & 57 trim .60 AR compressor) and I drive the car on the street everyday! It is wicked up top! I have full boost @ 4000 rpms and the damn thing has crazy high end! Personally, I think having some lag helps out on the street, only because the power band is SO predictable and you know exactly where teh powerband is! Like I said before 9.0:1 CR will allow you to boost more, have more lag, but will make more power than 9.5:1 CR. I think I can like with the turbo being laggy until 4000 rpms!

ZygSpeed

Would you care to post a link or something as to where I can find more info on these.
Though I won't know for sure till I take the R apart some time in the future (right now its pretty much stock, but approaching 100K miles).
Thanks, ed.

ArizonaTurbo

http://www.theoldone.com/components/pistons

ZygSpeed

Thanks!

Ray

Wow, by leaps and bounds... Well, i Would say both Endyn RW or JE, cant go wrong. Just sand the JE and they'll be the same.