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Old 11-01-2008, 03:46 PM
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I picked up a S400 for a mustang project. It is the S472 aka S400sx3. I cant find the information anywhere on why it is a S400?

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Heres a pic.
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The s400 are the original compressor cover and turbine combination from the off the shelf Rig units. The difference b/w the S372 and S472 is simply the compressor cover. The s400 is just a tad bigger. But what is even larger is the S475, S480, and S488.
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From what I've seen, most S400's = T6 turbine housing
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tokesGTR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I've seen, most S400's = T6 turbine housing</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is my experience.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tokesGTR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From what I've seen, most S400's = T6 turbine housing</TD></TR></TABLE>

Heh. forgot to mention that. That is standard for the Supra guys.
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whats that thing to the left of your turbo? oh crap never mind thats a human child!! man t6 turbo's are LARGE!!
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This has a T4 housing, thanks guys.
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Guy on some mustang forums I'm on went 8.60 @ 160 MPH with 19 pounds of boost from an 80mm S400.
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It is an S400SX because that is what that turbo is. Bullseye is a BW distributor and calls them S3xx turbos, but all the parts are actually S400 series parts. The "T4" bolt pattern is more commonly an S300 bolt pattern in Borg Warner world, but also existed on some S400 housings. These turbos use S400 housings that had the smaller bolt pattern.

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I tell you what is frustrating and this thread aids this... The lack of total information on bullseye turbos on their website. Im about to buy one and still cant find 100% information on the units. The s366xl is non existent on their site and the housing options between different dealers always varies until you ask and wait on answers for questions that you shouldn't have to ask!!!!!
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lol, i told you the turbine housing options...
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i know what i can get now, but its still obnoxious that the info isn't just THERE.
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^^I do agree with that. Sure, you can ask for the info and get it, but there isn't a great source (like Bullseye's website) with all the options, variations and configurations listed in detail...
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In the age of the internet information overload of misconceptions and posts, many creators of turbochargers will only inform their dealers of other combinations not normally available online in order to protect some of their intellectual property (as is their right). Considering that BW turbochargers a little different, even vendors can get confused as to which options are where. That is where several of us turbo designer guys can come in to fill the gaps where you need.

Just remember:
It took over 10 years for Garrett to finally come out to the public without going through Turbonetics or other dealers, and over 5 years ALONE to get their site available with MOST of the turbochargers available. (Hell, even on turbobygarrett.com, they've left out over 50 MORE combinations and available turbochargers.). So if BW didn't have every little piece of info sitting right there at your fingertips, its kinda the way of the world. Give it some time.

Get used to it. some things just aren't available with a click of a button.
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just for the record, the catalog on garretts website only have gt turbos, anyone know where can i find a catalog or even specs by part # for other garrett turbos?

thanks
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Originally Posted by RACEPAK
just for the record, the catalog on garretts website only have gt turbos, anyone know where can i find a catalog or even specs by part # for other garrett turbos?

thanks
yet another lack of Turbo info that has ticked me off for years.
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Default Re: What is the difference between the S300 and S400 series turbos by BW?



^^this is the S400SX. It is BW's version of the 42R, and what bullseye calls 372, same damn turbo
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Housings, V-band flanging and turbine wheel choices are what make this different. The S400 is a BOX unit, where there are no options in the turbine wheel housings or flanges. you must weld your own v-bands, flanges and machine your own turbine wheels to fit.
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airwerks 400sx here
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