swappedb16teg

yea was wondering if the vafc would be a safe way to tune my boosted b16 and be dependable. i am on a prety tight budget othwise i would go with hondata. but if n e one could let me know if this would be good enough to tune with or to get the greddy e manage system? thanks

platinum00

do a search for "afc hack", you will find all the info you need.

it works, but not the best on your engine.

platinum.

swappedb16teg

ok thanks man, since im on a tight budget what would u recommend doing?

wantboost

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uberdata

BlueShadow

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1139873

Check that thread out...also what other info can you give about your setup? like what OBD, what year ECU, and what year car and motor it is.

EDIT: here is a quick pricelist though: Hopefully you have a laptop already or can at least borrow one.

free -uberdata
$55-$85 - chip burner
$15 - ECU chipping supplies
$10 - Nokia cell phone cable (wire it in to your ECU for datalogging)
$89 Walbro 255lph
$40 - DSM 450cc
$15 - resistor box

And here are a few other options you can get, which aren't absolutely necessary or can be borrowed from somebody else:

$175 - Ostrich romulator
$280 - Zeitronix wideband O2 setup

Modified by BlueShadow at 11:15 PM 2/13/2005


Modified by BlueShadow at 11:16 PM 2/13/2005

swappedb16teg

ok heres my setup: t3 super 60, fmic, 440cc dsm's, walbro 255, its an obd-0 pr3 but i might go for p-28, its a 90 integra with jdm b16 swap, its in the process of the 5spd conversion and boosting after. im shooting for around 250 to 275 at the wheels if possibly. the motor is stock but plan on building after i get the funds. now couple ?'s on the uberdata: what software will i have to have to make my maps? im new to all this tuning **** but want to learn bad. i can do anything to a car but when it comes to all this computer tuning **** im lost, im sure its not hard to learn. i do have access to a labtop, where do i get the actual chips i will be burning. thanks on all the info too

if theirs n e one in the indiana area that could possibly help me on all this help me out!

crispydee

To be honest with out swapping to obd0 your pretty screwed like me.

093turbo16

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not really, you can just do a conversion.

IN VTEC

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If you're already set on doing the OBD-0 to OBD-1 conversion, my natural recommendation is that you get a Hondata S100B. I like working with Hondata more b/c it's quicker and easier, but I don't mind working with Uberdata either...too much.

I work with Uberdata and Hondata, but I'm quite a ways south of you. I know a couple of guys in your area that can set you up with the socketed ECU and datalogging port.

PM gdrum (Grant) and he should be able to get you in touch with his friend Brian to socket an ECU for you. Brian's on H-T, but I don't think he frequents anymore.

BlueShadow

if you are obd 0 and wanna stay obd 0 so you dont have to pay for a new ECU and conversion harness you can use turboedit which is mean for obd 0.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=867696

crispydee

turbo edit is not all sorted to run with vtec yet so if you have the B16 and obd0 its a no no.

BlueShadow

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From what I've read it may not be perfect, but VTEC has been made to work on TE.

check out Xenocrons writeup on what he did:

http://www.xenocron.com/te/tur...o.htm

OBD1 is still a little better IMO because you dont have to do all that stuff Xenocron did. For obd1 you have a fuel and ignition map for the high and low cam profiles. I think obd1 ECU's also have better adjustability because there are more rpm/load cells.

crispydee

Yeah ive looked into it and even emailed the Xenocron guy. Carnt remember his name now but really helpfull and a top guy. With my PW0 ecu there is nothing that can be done without swapping to obd1. Its not so bad for you guy as there is a lot of people doing it in the US but not here in the uk. Dont get me wrong there is people doing it here but its expensive as you have to get most of the parts from the US and even if you run urberdata non of the tuning place have a clue how to use it.

swappedb16teg

i found this on ebay: Innovate LM-1 Digital Wideband Air Fuel Ratio Meter,,, and it comes with:1) The Basic Kit includes a the Meter, a Bosch wide-band oxygen sensor and cable, cigarette-lighter power adapter, serial cable for PC connection, 9V battery, exhaust bung and plug, CD and manual...shouldnt i be able to just tune all my **** with this? here ill give u the item # and someone check it out and let me know: its 7954948339. in the description it says for a proper tune and comes with software and everything. someone check it out

wantboost

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thats just a wideband with software to datalog the info from the wideband. you use it to aid you in tuning your car, you cant tune your car with just the wideband

swappedb16teg

ok thanks just wondering, i didnt think u could but just makin sure. if ne one knows someone with a similar uberdata chip that i will need let me know, heres my plans: t3 setup running around 8 to 10psi with fmic , 255 fuel pump, 450cc dsm's aem fuel rail and regulater. msd ignition and all the other goodies, and oh yea i was reading in one of my books and found an msd ignition system that automaticly retards timing when it senses boost. would this be good? but n e ways if n e one knows someone with a similar setup with uberdata ill buy one of their chips

W O T

Uberdata has its own tiiming maps, you wont need the MSD 6btm, I bought one and went turboedit and can get my $300 back by selling it. It does have some cool launching, rev limit features and such though

But if your on a budget, I wouldnt go with it

0xenocron

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free -uberdata
$55-$85 - chip burner
$15 - ECU chipping supplies
$10 - Nokia cell phone cable (wire it in to your ECU for datalogging)
$89 Walbro 255lph
$40 - DSM 450cc
$15 - resistor box
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not sure why everyone still posts that the supplies to chip your ECU are only $15...you forget that he adds an extra $8 on top for shipping

::shameless plug sorry::

I do agree that going OBD1 and running VTEC will lead to better results than on TurboEdit. lots of people just dont want to spend the money to convert and its really not as cheap and east as everyone states.

Yes, if you know what you are doing and you know where to get cheap parts, plugs, ECUs, can do your own chipping and wiring then yeah...its relatively inexpensive to convert. but it seems the more recent newly acquainted Uber users by a prefabbed conversion harness, a prechipped ECU with datalogging installed, they pay for chips to be burnt for them