Where does one go to get a Uberdata burner, software, ect?

 

does a chiped p28 ecu for hondata work for uberdata? is the same chip used for both? just wondering. i read the site on chiping for uberdata so would that be the same for hondata?

just curious

 

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Mine works fine to use with my aem and laptop

 

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Yes, the acutal socket and chip in the ecu's are the same for uberdata and hondata.

 

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http://www.ecimulti.org/uberdata/

 

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Also checkout Keebler65's writeup, Excellent info complete with a parts list and a "how to."

http://home.mn.rr.com/keebler65/honda/index.html

 

I was just about to post that link. You beat me to it. Thats a good website. I think ID TEN originally posted this list, but its a link to all the parts you need off JDR.com. I'll repost it because im sure someone will use it. By the way, I just got the items in the mail today, they look great. About $28 shipped for everything including a ZIF (easier insertion removal of chips for those who dont know) socket. You might also need a 28 Pin DIP socket if the ZIF wont solder straight into the board (i haven't tried it yet).

1- 29C256
http://www.jdr.com/interact/it...atmel
1 - 1k to 1.2k resistor exact value doesn't matter
http://www.jdr.com/interact/it...ors1k
1 - ZIF Socket
http://www.jdr.com/interact/it...54-10
2 - 0.1µf ceramic disc capacitors(12V or better will work fine)
http://www.jdr.com/interact/it...-10pf
1 - 74HC373
http://www.jdr.com/interact/it...4HCG1

 

I have read that many of you repliers to this post are boosting - does this go to show that hondata or uberdata aren't a great idea for N/A guys like me?

I am currently running H22 obd2 with V/afc - I've been trying to get rid of it for a while and was considering hondata, but with my recent discovery of the existence of uberdata...

What kind of obd1 ecu would I for uberdata to run my h22? Some searches yielded that p7x ones are used by uberdata enthusiasts... which for me?

 

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I am currently running H22 obd2 with V/afc - I've been trying to get rid of it for a while and was considering hondata, but with my recent discovery of the existence of uberdata...

What kind of obd1 ecu would I for uberdata to run my h22? Some searches yielded that p7x ones are used by uberdata enthusiasts... which for me? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I would use a p72. It gives you another pin out normally used for iab that you could use to trigger anything at any rpm. I would def. use uberdata for your setup rather than what you have now. Plus you could sell the afc and use the money for a rom burner and toward an ecu. I have a p72 for sale if you want.

 

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We're not all boosting. Most of the users in this forum are boosting because it's the Forced Induction forum so the results are *cough* somewhat skewed I know of at least 3 ppl locally using Uberdata for N/A purposes.

 

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excellent. would anyone have any comments on the use of a p72 for an n/a h22a4 with uberdata? i saw that they dont have any base maps readily available for uber...?

 

There's a few P13 bins floating around the Uberdata Forum. I don't know much about H22s but I think the P72 is the closest match to the P13.

 

bizzump

 

the only thing I dont understand about this whole money argument is... for uberdata, you have to buy that damn eprom burner that cost $200+... why not just get a hondata? If I am mistaken plz correct me...

 

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dude an eprom burner costs $50-$75 bux..If you plan to tune your car yourself your gonna need one with hondata anyways.

 

All in all they're the same.

I encourage everyone to at least TRY uberdata before going to Hondata. This stuff isn't quite as hard as you may think. You just have to stop and try and understand certain stuff. If something doesn't make sense, DONT IGNORE IT. Try to understand it.

I just started using uberdata and am getting the hang of it, (and understanding) rather quickly.

For the price of a burner, 3 chips, zif socket, DIP socket, and a IC, you're set!
You'll want a wideband eventually, but if you're running just off a basemap, it's FAR safer than running the hack. This way, you can do everything the hack does plus timing retard for a price of around 120-150 (depending on where you get parts etc)

VAFC+ BTM = about $350. So it's dumb not to!

 

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All in all they are not the same I just converted to uberdata and am adjusting.. If you look at both programs you will notice the differences. #1 uberdata changes vac columns when you switch map sensors(in 1.66 at least). #2 the 3 bar still has bugs to be worked out(I couldn't get mine to work good with uberdata so I'm staying with the stock map for now). #3 There is a glitch with uberdata and the P28(vac cutoff when trying to hold a consistent rpm when standing still or with the clutch in). #4 injector scaleing is different. So for now I'm back to 11psi, until the 3 bar is worked out Can't beat free though. I'm not complaining just posting what I have found...

 

does ubergoober still come w/ a free roll of duct tape to hold your ic piping together?

 

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Yeah, I think it comes with the PVC chargepipe too!

 

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Ask this guy:
Uberdata Tuned 435hp B16

 

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All in all they are not the same I just converted to uberdata and am adjusting.. If you look at both programs you will notice the differences. #1 uberdata changes vac columns when you switch map sensors(in 1.66 at least). #2 the 3 bar still has bugs to be worked out(I couldn't get mine to work good with uberdata so I'm staying with the stock map for now). #3 There is a glitch with uberdata and the P28(vac cutoff when trying to hold a consistent rpm when standing still or with the clutch in). #4 injector scaleing is different. So for now I'm back to 11psi, until the 3 bar is worked out Can't beat free though. I'm not complaining just posting what I have found... </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha ur right.

I wrote that wrong. I meant they all do the same thing in the end pretty much. (let you controll fuel and timing) But one does it a little better than the other I see.

I've got that that same damn problem with the hack right now actually. The vac cutoff, when I try to hold a consistent RPM..after like 3 seconds, the RPM's drop a ton.

 

so where do I get the eprom burner?

 

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at the drug store..... i dont know why that is the first thing that came to mind?

you can get them off ebay for a great price

 

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I got the one with the yellow board of ebay(willems) ~$50. note you have to short out pins 3 and 31 (use a paperclip) on the ZIF(eprom socket) or it wont burn correctly.

 

Before you jump on the Willems, check out the USB burner at Moates.net. It's USB so no big ol' serial cable and no external power source, plus there's no need to short pins to burn 29c's. I had a Willem's, crapped out on me, jumped on this new burner for $85 shipped and it's definatley a more convienient unit IMO.