uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!!

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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 03:28 PM
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Default uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!!

i figured i might get more hits or help over here in the h-t community!!!

ok i have a p06 in a 00 hatch with stock engine!!! i for the life of me cant get the damn thing to run a basemap correctly. I have tried bbka's with vtec off and changed the injector sizing! if i cut my j1 jumper it will run like normal!! i have written basemaps for a p28 that work fine on a gsr swap. i have a willem burner and am using 29c256's i am lost guys i am lost.

also when i plug my lm-1 wideband in the thing runs like 15afr and up just boggy as hell with the 3500 rev limit type thing.

help please
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 05:01 PM
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The low rev limit tells me there is an issue with the rom. Either it is looking for something your ecu doesn't have (knock, pa, injector test etc.) or it didn't burn correctly.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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Yup, check the settings and make sure the chip is actually being burned. I had to do my friends po6 like 5 times befoer it would run. then it was fine. The willem burner I use is kind of finicky i think.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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are you sure you sized the injecters correctly??? cuz when i did mine, we messed up the injecter sizing, and it idled very very rough and when u gave it gas it died instantly

just a though
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (iHave2Cams)

try this.

burn the chip and then compare the chip to the map, if they are the same then go from there. but for all you know the chip didnt even burn correctly.
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (envision2teg)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by envision2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try this.

burn the chip and then compare the chip to the map, if they are the same then go from there. but for all you know the chip didnt even burn correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

how do i compare the chip to the map?
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 10:03 PM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (warwagon)

well i have a willems burner, and in the burning program there is a tab that says "verify"

so what you would do is stick/keep the chip in the burning socket, then reload the bin you just burned and hit the verify button. It will then tell you if the bin file matches what is on the chip.

simple as that
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (envision2teg)

Check that the 27C256/29C256 speed is at most 170ns.

Try burning the stock P06 program to chip, it is in PGMFI archives. If you still get limp home mode, you know that the problem is in your chip/socket/etc area and you work at it until the problem goes away.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:25 PM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (J. Davis)





well i put the p28 with a base program that i made through uberdata and it ran great!!!!!! i assume my problem is in my p06 could you guys notice anything this ecu is missing or needs?
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Looks like your missing the 74HC373 IC.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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i didnt do the ecu so could you maybe point me in the right direction of what to do
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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buy it and stick it into the smaller of the 2 empty sockets and put the chip with your rom into the big one.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (devnull)

oh its that thing! i was wondering why the p28 had that and my ecu didnt???? can i get it at radio shack
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by warwagon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh its that thing! i was wondering why the p28 had that and my ecu didnt???? can i get it at radio shack</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think so if not try:
jdr.com.

bootroms.com

moates.com

mouser.com
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (devnull)

thanks man... i owe you one... hopefully!!!!!!
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by warwagon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks man... i owe you one... hopefully!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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What version are you using? I believe (but someone needs to verify) that the P28 v 1.65 has a bug in the first vac column. The numbers are too low and need to be raised.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (racinskittle)

no it works when i write to the p28 devnull i believe has solved my p06 problem and i use 1.63, 1.65-3 and 1.66 just playing for now!!! when i get back from atl this weekend i will prolly start putting the turbo on!!!!!!!
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by devnull &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like your missing the 74HC373 IC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok i bought this at radio shack wondering if it is the same?

74hcT373 Octal D-Type Transparent Latch 3-State
high speed CMOS Logic Device
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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Default Re: uberdata problem with getting a basemap to run!!!! (warwagon)

yes that should work. just make sure you insert it the correct direction. same goes for the eprom.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Try reading the chip with the Epromer software and save it to a bin file, then go into Uberdata and check if the settings are the same. Sometimes the burner does not burn correctly and the settings get fugged up.
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dualknuttz1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try reading the chip with the Epromer software and save it to a bin file, then go into Uberdata and check if the settings are the same. Sometimes the burner does not burn correctly and the settings get fugged up.</TD></TR></TABLE>

he fixed it, it didnt have the latch in..

Rob
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Old Apr 22, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by warwagon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ok i bought this at radio shack wondering if it is the same?

74hcT373 Octal D-Type Transparent Latch 3-State
high speed CMOS Logic Device</TD></TR></TABLE>


ok this latch fixed my problem so i guess the radio shack one is fine, thanks again keebler65!!!!!!!
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