U need thicker wrist pins not thicker pistons je pistons don't seem to be as popular as they used to be cp seems to be the goto wiseco is also great. If I'm not mistaken oversized valves is a mistake for anything under 1000hp

for hg je/ge/oem are all fine

 

 

dont underestimate the flow of stock valves...theres four of them per cylinder.... 2ex/2in in so there twice as big as they look pair that with a well designed head. Everything is give and take so im guessing +1mm gives you more power above 8k but kills it everywhere else.

Id recommend going with stock valves but maybe wait and see what AZ has to say although he already stated to stick with stock size. Plenty of 800+ using oem head other then cam/valve train

 

I've personally used stock sized Ferrea intake and exhaust valves and would not use stock valves even if I were building something 500whp or less. The reason for me is strength, in the past I have had two motors completely trashed because stock valves and cheap valves. The first time I had a little valve float and the piston hit the valve and broke it off destroying the entire motor, second motor I got a set of cheap valves and I think poor installation was the issue but none the less the valve head broke off in the motor destroying it.

Ever since I ran Ferrea valves they are strong, I've ran them for 5 plus years on a full drag motor running 10.5k RPM shifts and on occasion have hit 11k plus. After 4 years I pulled the motor to refresh and had a couple slightly bent valves, so slight that I could have kept running them but changed the bent ones out. Last year when my motor let go I had a piston hit the head in 3rd gear at a 10,500 RPM shift and even that didn't break the valves.

No onto oversized valves, I've always ran stock sized valves because I never really thought I would need oversized ones. I just had a new head sent over to 4Piston to get a full outlaw head done and both my engine builder and 4piston recommended stock size valves because of heat. The said not to use an oversized valve especially when you make the power I make because of the heat our motors generate when on launch control.

So for my 1200-1300 whp I have chose to use stock size valves.

 

 

 

Looking good!

 

 

Man I love the look of slicks on an eg! Better raise up that front quite a bit though, homie.

 

OP, I'm in the same boat as you. Haven't had a turbocharged Honda since '05 even though I've tinkered with Hondas in general from time to time. Been messing with Hondas since the mid 90s. At the moment, I'm in the process of turbocharging my Del Sol and it's a "refresher course" to buying and remember all that is needed. Yeah, we're old ***** who can't seem to let go of toys. LOL

I would love to get into another Civic hatch but a clean one is hard to come by. 99% of the ones I see for sale are trash, gutted or riced out. Don't have time and patience to deal with people's unwanted headaches.

 

 

 

I think back to those old days. I remember for like 5 years in the early 2000's I was all about all motor, I remember in 2001 I ditched my b16 and NOS and did the b20vtec setup. By 2003 made 197whp and was like wow running 13.1 for an all motor street car was big. I remember having a chipped p28 with vtec controller which was all I had for tuning, stock ported b16 head, valve springs, retainers with an ok cam. Just knowing what I know now man it would have been nice to A have money but to just order cnc ported heads, tune with Hondata, have the type of parts available that you have now.

Back then I would have never thought I would have an 8 second car and better yet with even more new tech and parts becoming available possibly put together a 7 second car. I never took breaks in between and have always stuck with these cars, even though I long have passed on using these cars as daily drivers I still have the passion of making these fast.

 

 

Nowadays everything can be found using GOOGLE. Back then, if people weren't cool enough to give you tips and hints on stuff, you had to do trial and error. No one wanted to share any kind of knowledge because they were afraid you would eventually outrun them. Also, kids these days don't even want to work on their own cars. They call up their 5 buddies just to help install an intake. LOL

 

 

There's a flip-side to that coin. WIth Google, it still relies on people willing to take the time to share the correct information. If that information isn't correct, or leaves a lot of ambiguity, you still may be stuck trying to figure out who's correct and who isn't by some trial and error. Simply because you have more choices to select from doesn't necessarily mean they are better choices; just more options to allow for the trial-and-error process. Depending upon the request, of course.

In addition, the writers of this knowledge don't always keep their webpages or blogs current. The real information may be in write-ups in links that either no longer exist, or that the original creators kept in their own vaults-of-knowledge after they moved onto different areas and changed their websites accordingly. That's why I always say, if you find something good, either keep it in a digital archive, or print it and put it in a good ole' fashion notebook to access later. Because once it's deleted on the net, it's gone.

 

Good times, you never forget those rushes

2001? wow...you are an HT OG, dude

I was on SuperHonda I think...and found HT.

oh...Stock-sized Ferrea 6000 here, with Rocket Motorsport springs, Ferrea locks and K20 OEM Chrome-moly retainers..everything meshed beautifully

 

Very true, indeed. You literally have to filter out the "I believe it should work" and find the "this is correct way because I've done it 10 million times". What sucks is when the original poster uses shitty Photobucket and the image no longer exists. I find it much easier if there is a detailed pic of what is being described.

 

Back in the Nopi days (in my area), turbo cars were oiling down the track left and right and were super inconsistent. However, the all motor cars were dialed in, running similar times. Couple that with the fact I grew up with domestic naturally aspirated cars that would shake your insides at idle standing 10 feet away, which would street race in front of my house every weekend. That just done it for me as a kid.

 

 

I know what you mean. If you wanted parts for your build, you relied on the sales guy on the phone. If he suggested something you didn't need, you have an extra part or two. LOL

Yeah, I remember calling up PWR and faxing in my drawing of the FMIC I wanted. It was nice to have it custom made to my specs but on the other hand, I could have done fine with the off-the-shelf FMIC. I bought my REVHARD T3/T4 turbo kit (manifold, 35mm Turbonetics W/G and turbocharger) over the phone and had to wait almost 2 weeks for delivery. Talk about being anxious and worried at the same time. LOL

 

All these coming back threads. I need to pull the cover off my DC2.

 

 

^^^^^ New wheel setup lookin nice!