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Old 08-18-2018, 04:47 PM
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thatís a lot of boost, Iím running 9.1 now and the new build was thinking 10.2.1. See any problems with that?
No, I ran 50 to 55psi. New block is 10:1 and I will be running around 50psi.
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Donít blast me for asking this, but what is EG? I see everyone using that term but never remember anything EG from the past.
EG is the general designation for the 5th generation Civics from 92-95. EG is in the VIN code to denote which line of car it is. It is often used incorrectly as the EG cars are the Del Sold and the 4 door Civic. The hatch actually has an EH code, but is often still referred to as the EG hatch.
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EG is the general designation for the 5th generation Civics from 92-95. EG is in the VIN code to denote which line of car it is. It is often used incorrectly as the EG cars are the Del Sold and the 4 door Civic. The hatch actually has an EH code, but is often still referred to as the EG hatch.
Ďgotcha , just never heard of those labels before. I always new the cars as DX EX SI
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No, I ran 50 to 55psi. New block is 10:1 and I will be running around 50psi.
50psi is just sickening
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Eagle is what I ran before and never had a problem, manley is new to me considering how long I’ve been gone. They are all about the same price.

Yes they are all priced very similar , so I dont see the point of skunk2 when Eagles/Manley have been time tested 10+ years
90% of builds use Eagle H beam which are rated to 600HP many people get away with going higher but thats the official rating
Manley "Turbo Tuff" are the I beam design and rated at 1000HP

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‘gotcha , just never heard of those labels before. I always new the cars as DX EX SI
DX,EX SI ETC Refers to the submodel
EF EG EK Refers to the generation
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Yes they are all priced very similar , so I dont see the point of skunk2 when Eagles/Manley have been time tested 10+ years
90% of builds use Eagle H beam which are rated to 600HP many people get away with going higher but thats the official rating
Manley "Turbo Tuff" are the I beam design and rated at 1000HP



DX,EX SI ETC Refers to the submodel
EF EG EK Refers to the generation
for no more difference I will probably buy the ibeam when I purchase unless they only work for high power.... which is doubtful
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I beam is fine either way but cost a lot more then the H beam
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I beam is fine either way but cost a lot more then the H beam
about 750.00 for the rods or 1300 rod/piston combo.
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Old 08-20-2018, 06:32 PM
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about 750.00 for the rods or 1300 rod/piston combo.
$300 more up front is a smart move, I would rather not ever need to tear it back down because of weak links, I make decent money these days so Iíd rather do it right giving the chance
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$300 more up front is a smart move, I would rather not ever need to tear it back down because of weak links, I make decent money these days so Iíd rather do it right giving the chance
Yep $300 for better parts is an easy choice.
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The turbo tuff isn't available for D-series, so I am left to the H-beams. Lol! I'm running Skunk2 alpha lites now, good to about 500hp. The next one up is touted good to 900. Alphas run in the 400 range and available for B-series. Maybe worth a look as well. **shrug**
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Skunk 2 website claims 900+ on the alphas for b series i just dont trust it
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I’m guessing I will probably get the Crower I beam, I’m trying to find a spare block to send out for sleeving before I do anything else.
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I ran Turbo Tuffs over 1000, they held up pretty good.
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s2 / eagles / manley (i believe manleys are the best at that price) will hold 600 to the tyre easy.
Crower I beams should be very strong too.
But yeah TURBO TUFFS are the safest bet.
If you plan on reving close or above to 9500 and you are sure you will aim for north of 600whp especialy with a heavy rod design like I beams id get L19 / 625+ rod bolts.

But if you want 650whp+ id start looking into piston pins too...
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Skunk 2 website claims 900+ on the alphas for b series i just dont trust it
On an engineering standpoint, any reputable company is going to post an underestimation of limits on stuff like this; usually by a 20-30% margin. If they held a max of 1000 then broke at the precise limit, that's pretty irresponsible on their part. As for S2, the lites I'm using now have a rating of 450 I believe. I'm under this level but, I've also had them machined (against their recommendations). My machinist told me another story though.. Anywho.. That being said, they are holding perfect for what I've thrown at them so far. I would just find a reputable company to go with and take it from there, especially if you know you're gonna push those limits.
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s2 alphas are good rods. Id bet they are better from eagles buts thats me.
I had them but never used them.
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I’m about 90% sure I’ll be doing the I beams, either the Manley of the Crower. There are Zero fast Hondas where I live, I was the fastest 15 years ago and I’m apparently still the the fastest around where I live with my old setup. It will make this process a lot more fun being the center of the attention as it blows peoples minds lol. There really isn’t any import races for me to attend within 500 miles
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Any suggestions on valves , valve spring /retainers? Manley or Crower?
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supertech/ferea package with OEM valves
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Any suggestions on valves , valve spring /retainers? Manley or Crower?
I mean if you are going for 600 to 700whp I would go with Ferrea all the freaking way. For valves go with stock sized intake and exhaust 6000 series and please don't be cheap. Trust me bro take my advice on this type of stuff I am not going off of theory or what a friend told me it is real world use, 11,000 RPM shifts, 1000whp. An entire package will cost you around $1300ish for everything but it will last a long time and is solid.
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I mean if you are going for 600 to 700whp I would go with Ferrea all the freaking way. For valves go with stock sized intake and exhaust 6000 series and please don't be cheap. Trust me bro take my advice on this type of stuff I am not going off of theory or what a friend told me it is real world use, 11,000 RPM shifts, 1000whp. An entire package will cost you around $1300ish for everything but it will last a long time and is solid.
I was looking at Ferrea but some of their stuff seemed under priced, I’m sure I wasn’t seeing the nicer stuff. I have been in retail for 30 years and I stand by my motto....... good stuff ain’t cheap and cheap stuff ain’t good. I appreciate your input, I know you are very experienced in this area and I value that greatly. My friend that always helped me with this stuff pasted away a few weeks ago, it’s kinda what inspired me to get going again. My buddy was the lead engineer at Holley performance and my car was always used for testing and design for all the Holley parts that are on the market now. Even NOS Honda parts was tested and designed from my car. It’s nice having people willing to help.

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What head gasket does everyone use now? Stock? Cometic?
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stock or GE but majority use stock. Only reason I went GE was to match the 83MM bore
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I mean if you are going for 600 to 700whp I would go with Ferrea all the freaking way. For valves go with stock sized intake and exhaust 6000 series and please don't be cheap. Trust me bro take my advice on this type of stuff I am not going off of theory or what a friend told me it is real world use, 11,000 RPM shifts, 1000whp. An entire package will cost you around $1300ish for everything but it will last a long time and is solid.

my old engine builder / machine shop guy that I always used in the past is a Ferrea dealer I just found out and is going to be helping me out. it looks like I will being going with the competition series which is what I believe you also had suggested. We had talked about going the +1mm oversized size since it would not really cost anymore since the head was getting done anyway. Iím sill not sure what cams to run since every company claims to have ďthe bestĒ I know Crower has been a proven company to work with. I was also talking with CSS since Iím not doing selves and they had recommended using the JE pro seal head gasket instead of doing a O-ring block , they said I should not have any issues under 800whp ďwith a proper tuneĒ Iíve read great things about the JE head gasket but would like to hear someone elseís thoughts. Also was talking to JE about the 9.1 pistons (JE) that I am now running and the tech guy basically told me to throw them in a trash can which I was kinda surprised. He said that anything over 4-500whp he only recommends a custom built piston with a thinker top, is this what most everyone is doing to achieve this higher hp numbers or willl a company like wiseco handle things out of the box?
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