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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 02:58 PM
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Coming to the completion of my engine build i'm trying to figure out what turbo i'm going to run. I have done some research and I think the bullseye s366 or the garrett gt35r may be a decent choice but am unsure still. The car will be driven around town on occassion and to the track on weekends.

My setup includes:
84mm Darton Sleeved B16 Block.
Wiseco 10.0 to 1 Pistons.
Eagle Rods.
ACL Race Series Bearings.
Polished/Balanced Crank.
ATI Crank Pulley.
RLZ Port/Polished Head.
Ferrea Valves/Springs/Titanium Retainers.
Skunk 2 Pro 1 Cams.
Victor X Ported to Match Head.
70 MM Throttle Body.
ARP Everything Holding the Engine Together.

Thats the basics of the setup, and I have a full race top mount turbo manifold. If anything else is needed in reference to my setup or goals with the car i'd be more than happy to give.

Thanks.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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If making a comparison to the GT35R specifically, also consider the BW S362 turbocharger as well.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 03:28 PM
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honestly i wasnt making any comparisons.. they are just two turbos ive been reccommended for my setup.. i've also looked at a t3/t67 h.o.

not really sure what i want to run, thats why i'm looking for suggestions.
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 04:01 PM
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http://www.ej8squad.com/thread-8520.html

GT30 vs GT35...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...rhighboost.jpg


If you read, it was for their street car that sees occational track use. I can guarantee you won't be able to use 550 on the street, let alone 650. You can, however, use a much more responsive turbo on the street AND track...
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Old Oct 23, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Weak!EG
honestly i wasnt making any comparisons.. they are just two turbos ive been reccommended for my setup.. i've also looked at a t3/t67 h.o.

not really sure what i want to run, thats why i'm looking for suggestions.
Yeah.. this can be one of the hardest decisions to make. What you're going to get mainly are opinions on what people would use if they had your money, and not necessarily what it is you're trying to do here. You don't have to go ball-bearing cartridge if you don't want to. You need to look at the TRUE purpose of the car beyond "quick enough on the street, something for the track", etc etc... Here's how you can narrow down your choices when it comes to selecting the right turbo for you needs.

1)Budget - I don't care what people say when they state that "they don't have a budget", be real; everyone has a limit to spend on a turbocharger.

2) Need - Really focus on what your purpose of the car is, as a turbocharger can only behave in a certain ways. A good turbo can perform ; One great attribute (i.e.. Top end power)., two very good attributes (i.e. lower end power, good response), three somewhat decent attributes (Decent responsiveness, good torque, not that great top end power) or four attributes poorly. (i.e. not that good of top end, no torque, quick response, but little power).

Check out other people setups, and ride in a few cars to find out if you really need 500whp. You'd be surprised when people who have not had that much experience in turbo hondas ask for 500whp when really 350whp is more than enough. Look to make sure that your engine is mechanically sound and can handle the goals that you're trying to achieve. I'll PM you some ideas.

3)Other hardware - Your manifold , downpipe, downpipe flange and other hardware (if they were pre-made) had certain sized turbos in mind. If you're trying to keep A/C and power steering, using something with an S cover to get "BIG POWER" may not be able to fit with the rest of your equipment, so it may limit you. Now, if you're custom making the equipment, you have all the options in the world, as you can fit your turbo around the rest of your equipment. If not, you may be limited to a particular series of turbos like Garrett, precision, etc.

4)Fittings and water lines - Do you know what these involve when it comes to the ball-bearing cartridge? such as the added responsibilities associated with the care of these series of turbos? Are you aware of the additional costs associated with water lines and labor involved? Find out about these. People love to recommend turbochargers from the GT-R series family (I have a few on my vehicles as well) but they don't account for the changes in fittings, lines, and restrictors that may be needed with these turbos. If your goal involves circuit racing in which these are more used, that's one thing. If not, consider something else.

5)Location of you and the all the "special" stuff - If you don't have the ability to have a turbocharger repaired or serviced in other ways if something goes wrong, what good is having a very expensive unit? Make sure that you not only have the support of the company the turbo involves, but take into account the fact that you might move, you may sell the unit, or the Company may not be as available in a couple of years... what then? I like the billet wheels for the fact that they can be created in many different configurations that the major Names can't create on a whim, but those take a long time to recreate or repair (not to mention the cost of an individual piece when something goes wrong). This is why even though the LARGE compressor wheels are on a bandwagon, the smaller ones are not as popular.


But remember, in the end, it is your car, and not theirs. Only YOU can answer these questions, so the more detail you can give about your goals, the better the responses that you'll receive to help give you an INFORMED choice.

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