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Old 10-14-2007, 12:36 AM
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sup.

so i have this problam for a while now.

my afr's go rich for a second when i let off the throttle at idle and in moving decel... the more i tap it in the richer it gets.

please throw me ideas of what can cause this... its driving me insane.

setup:
p28 ecu + crome (ill upload the bin if anyone wishes)
dsm 450's
oem resistor box
tps set to 0.45 closed and 4.47 open
new plugs.


thanks,
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so many minds and no ideas?
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Default Re: throw me ideas. what can make a car go rich for a sec when tb shuts? (RACEPAK)

mine does the same. i believe from what ive read, crome doesnt have a tip out adjustment and this is why it cant be adjusted out. mine causes me no problems though except for an occasional pop in the exhaust.
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its nothing to worry about
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sup everyone.
i know that this is not somthing to worry about. but im getting shitty mpg at traffic.

and the other reason is that i cand read my plugs. they get fouled as you let go the throttle.

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i know some other pepole that use crome dont have this issue, i even asked xenocron and he said he dont know/have this issue.


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Default Re: throw me ideas. what can make a car go rich for a sec when tb shuts? (RACEPAK)

i remember someone saying that you have to adjust the point at which the injectors shut off
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ok... but how do i do it?

maby some option in advanced idle?
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Default Re: throw me ideas. what can make a car go rich for a sec when tb shuts? (RACEPAK)

how long does it go rich for and where is your o2 sensor located?

it shouldnt foul the plugs or cause bad mileage.

i played with the decel pump options in my civic for a long time and never noticed a difference in driveability or mileage.
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Default Re: throw me ideas. what can make a car go rich for a sec when tb shuts? (JDogg)

if i remember correctly, i saw a post fuel table in my advanced tables last time i scrolled trough it.

is'nt that to control how long it gives fuel after you close the throttle?
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Post fuel is to set the injectors opening at warmup.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how long does it go rich for and where is your o2 sensor located?

it shouldnt foul the plugs or cause bad mileage.

i played with the decel pump options in my civic for a long time and never noticed a difference in driveability or mileage.</TD></TR></TABLE>

it says rich only for 1-2 second, depending how i drive it.

o2 is located just behind the oil pan,

what do you mean by decel pump options ?
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decel pump is the oppsite of accel pump.. it senses how much and how fast you let off the throttle and subtracts fuel accordingly...

1-2 sec is just the wb lagging probably... its normal and will not cause anything "bad"
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The decel enrichment might be a from the fuel map portion in the table that the ECU reads when the throttle plate is closing; so a few datalogs to see if that is what is happening.

Taping the throttle is probably your enrichment value; there is a selection for this in the advanced tables, or in Fuel tools, can't remember which one off-hand because I am at work.

at any point if you tip the gas does it go rich for a hair?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JaredKaragen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The decel enrichment might be a from the fuel map portion in the table that the ECU reads when the throttle plate is closing; so a few datalogs to see if that is what is happening.

Taping the throttle is probably your enrichment value; there is a selection for this in the advanced tables, or in Fuel tools, can't remember which one off-hand because I am at work.

at any point if you tip the gas does it go rich for a hair?</TD></TR></TABLE>
hello Jared.
i'v tryed everything in the fuel maps. even setting the whole rpm range in coulmn1 to "1" and even 0.50.

it happans every time. i shut the throttle.
its getting really rich... like 11.5 when i let it off after a wot.
and about 13.9-12.5 when i let off when im cruising it.

at traffic take offs i need to rev it a bit more cause its a d14
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